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Quote: fun time frankie "You know the rule you can slag any player off until he's signs for your club then all is forgotten just think if we'd have stayed in SL we'd have had homophobic hardaker also
TBH I think its a good signing I dont actually believe he is racist, just the PC brigade can go into overdrive. I do however think he is not really what your club needs for a quota spot. Like I said good signing though

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Based purely on his performances on the pitch, Carney is a great signing for KR. However, I don't see how you can possibly justify the signing of someone found guilty of racially abusing other players, especially considering how these clubs try to do so much community work and offer players as role models to young fans.



Back to Hull FC discussions, I'm assuming that we won't see Michaels' contract extended. I think I would have kept him on instead of offering Talanoa another year, despite Talanoa being the superior player. I really like Talanoa and have thoroughly enjoyed watching him play but I think he's just been injured a little bit too often over the past two seasons to justify keeping him on. Michaels puts in good, solid performances and has rarely been unavailable for selection.

Either way, a new winger would be needed to replace Fonua.

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Carney isn't the type of individual who will improve the ethic and culture of your club. He will fit in at Rovers though. A good fit for them.

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "Carney isn't the type of individual who will improve the ethic and culture of your club. He will fit in at Rovers though. A good fit for them.'"

It's a bit unfortunate this post is directly under one pondering the future of your clubs drug dealer and drink driver.

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Quote: Dudley "It's a bit unfortunate this post is directly under one pondering the future of your clubs drug dealer and drink driver.'"

Guilty until proven innocent? When did the country adopt that legality, post Brexit?

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Drug dealing?
Can you post a link to that conviction for me please?

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Seems libelous to me.

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Some cracking double standards, particularity on the secret forum, championing the signing of Carney, whilst still have digs at Kelly. Lost the moral high ground on that one now.

Also making out like Sheens is some kind of magician who can fix all these players, so far in the English game, Sheens hasn't proved anything yet, he has built a squad with cap 2/3 times everyone else, big test will come in the middle 8's, to see how good the "Wizard" is.

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Quote: Dave K. "Some cracking double standards, particularity on the secret forum, championing the signing of Carney, whilst still have digs at Kelly. Lost the moral high ground on that one now.

Also making out like Sheens is some kind of magician who can fix all these players, so far in the English game, Sheens hasn't proved anything yet, he has built a squad with cap 2/3 times everyone else, big test will come in the middle 8's, to see how good the "Wizard" is.'"


Wasn't Carney at Salford when Sheen was? Didnt seem to have that much of an effect then!

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Wasn't Carney at Salford when Sheen was? Didnt seem to have that much of an effect then!'"


That doesn't count.

Strange how much Salford have improved this year with basically the same squad.

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Circling back roughly towards the original topic of this thread it shows how important it is for Hull to get recruitment and retention right because Salford are showing that they are serious in making their move from an undisciplined rabble into proper contenders. By shipping out both Carney's they have purged themselves of expensive tool heads and don't seem to have any seriously disruptive players left in their squad.

As for Carney, a perfect fit for the dobbins. Scum bag, on the decline, poor disciplinary record and won't be too cheap - what more do you want? The best bit is he has 5 free weeks to introduce himself to his new team mates WAGs.

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Pleased to hear Mini and Washbrook will likely get new contracts.

If Talanoa is getting a new contract I wouldn't keep Michaels, while he is reliable he hasn't been first choice winger with a fully fit squad and would prefer to see Naughton or Rawsthorne given a chance instead.

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Quote: Liam666 "Pleased to hear Mini and Washbrook will likely get new contracts.

If Talanoa is getting a new contract I wouldn't keep Michaels, while he is reliable he hasn't been first choice winger with a fully fit squad and would prefer to see Naughton or Rawsthorne given a chance instead.'"

Michaels was first choice winger all last season lest you forget. Personally I'd have him over talanoa every week. He might not have the brute strength but in other areas he's hugely better than FT, that being defensively.

People keep saying we can free up a quota spot by releasing Michaels, yes that's true, but for whom, a big name Australian/NZ NRL star to replace Ellis, I don't think so. A big name star to play on the wing or in the centres, nope, in the halves maybe, not there either, what about in the backrowers, nope, we have mini there as our big earner and from the way pearson and Radford were talking a few weeks back I don't think we'll be signing a marquee player.
But why MUST we free up a quota spot for next season when of the two players SM is massively more valuable to us than FT? I agree that we need to be looking long term to bring players through and it's a bloody shame we lost Lancaster as the kid was scoring tries for fun when he got his chance but others hopefully can come through in the same way Minikin at Cas has. in the meantime SM gets a wing spot for me with the aim to bring in a younger player and we release FT.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Michaels was first choice winger all last season lest you forget. Personally I'd have him over talanoa every week. He might not have the brute strength but in other areas he's hugely better than FT, that being defensively.

People keep saying we can free up a quota spot by releasing Michaels, yes that's true, but for whom, a big name Australian/NZ NRL star to replace Ellis, I don't think so. A big name star to play on the wing or in the centres, nope, in the halves maybe, not there either, what about in the backrowers, nope, we have mini there as our big earner and from the way pearson and Radford were talking a few weeks back I don't think we'll be signing a marquee player.
But why MUST we free up a quota spot for next season when of the two players SM is massively more valuable to us than FT? I agree that we need to be looking long term to bring players through and it's a bloody shame we lost Lancaster as the kid was scoring tries for fun when he got his chance but others hopefully can come through in the same way Minikin at Cas has. in the meantime SM gets a wing spot for me with the aim to bring in a younger player and we release FT.'"


Came into the side when Fonua got injured, then Carols was moved to halves, Logan ws injured which meant Fonua was moved to Centre freeing up the wing spot, fully fit side i don't think he would be first choice other wise he would have been given nummber 2 or 5 by now

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