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| Lets face it, if the club are happy to let Berro go, then they have a very good reason for it. They could well have somebody lined up. Sammut although not what i would call top class would do a good job here and there have already been rumblings about him.
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| Quote hullbg="hullbg"Every club has a price.'"
Really, that still doesn't answer WHO, come on, name names, who do you want, how much would you pay?
FC are more than one top signing from being title contenders.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Really, that still doesn't answer WHO, come on, name names, who do you want, how much would you pay?
=#FF0000FC are more than one top signing from being title contenders.'"
I agree we are a good coach away from that.
As for who I want, i would take any half decent halfback, at least then we would have a halfback ready to cover. At the moment we don't even have that, our coach is too afraid to try youngsters in their preferred position so we will not know if they are good enough. Yet other teams are not afraid to chuck in a youngster to see how he fares.
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| Quote garry brindley="garry brindley" And let's not forget this is also the guy that signed Thorman and Reardon.'"
Different game I know, but even the greats like Sir Alex Ferguson sign pups.
E.G.......Jemba Jemba and Veron.
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| Quote hullbg="hullbg"I agree we are a good coach away from that.
As for who I want, i would take any half decent halfback, at least then we would have a halfback ready to cover. At the moment we don't even have that, our coach is too afraid to try youngsters in their preferred position so we will not know if they are good enough. Yet other teams are not afraid to chuck in a youngster to see how he fares.'"
we're more than a good coach away from title contenders, we're a whole ethos away (as a club, and as fans), but we are not in the dire straits that some people would have us believe.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"we're more than a good coach away from title contenders, we're a whole ethos away (as a club, and as fans), but we are not in the dire straits that some people would have us believe.'"
I'd agree with that regards the club, not so much the fans. A lot gets made of 'settling for mediocrity' but there's actually not much that fans can do to affect things.
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| Quote barton baird="barton baird"Different game I know, but even the greats like Sir Alex Ferguson sign pups.
E.G.......Jemba Jemba and Veron.'"
Taibi,Milne, Miller, Prunier, Bellion... Could go on although obviously he's been in his job ten times longer than Agar, point is even Fergies record in the transfer Market is considered to be mixed. Agar has made some good signings and some bad ones but idea that he is this great recruiter doesn't hold under scrutiny.
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| Quote garry brindley="garry brindley"Taibi,Milne, Miller, Prunier, Bellion... Could go on although obviously he's been in his job ten times longer than Agar, point is even Fergies record in the transfer Market is considered to be mixed. Agar has made some good signings and some bad ones but idea that he is this great recruiter doesn't hold under scrutiny.'"
Yes it does hold under scrutiny! The majority of his recruitment decisions, by that I mean players in and out, have been good ones. The odd mistake sure but in the main good decisions.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Yes it does hold under scrutiny! The majority of his recruitment decisions, by that I mean players in and out, have been good ones. The odd mistake sure but in the main good decisions.'"
Just a shame he seems incapable of doing anything with them when he's got them
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Yes it does hold under scrutiny! The majority of his recruitment decisions, by that I mean players in and out, have been good ones. The odd mistake sure but in the main good decisions.'"
But 'recruitment' means identifying people suitable for the job and then attracting them? Nothing to do with getting people out the door where I agree he has made some good decisions.
Fitz,O'Meley, Moa - Great Signings
Thorman, Reardon- Disastrous signings
Long - Too much time injured to be able to judge if he's been a good signing yet
Turner- Good signing on paper but hasn't shown much improvement yet, shocking in defence, best position still unclear
Tansey - Talented but inconsistent, can't yet be categorically said that he's the answer at fullback
Lauaki- Hasn't shown his ability anywhere near enough, been here over a season and we still don't know his best position, can be a liability
If that's not a mixed recruitment record I don't know what is.
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| Quote garry brindley="garry brindley"But 'recruitment' means identifying people suitable for the job and then attracting them? Nothing to do with getting people out the door where I agree he has made some good decisions.
Fitz,O'Meley, Moa - Great Signings
Thorman, Reardon- Disastrous signings
Long - Too much time injured to be able to judge if he's been a good signing yet
Turner- Good signing on paper but hasn't shown much improvement yet, shocking in defence, best position still unclear
Tansey - Talented but inconsistent, can't yet be categorically said that he's the answer at fullback
Lauaki- Hasn't shown his ability anywhere near enough, been here over a season and we still don't know his best position, can be a liability
If that's not a mixed recruitment record I don't know what is.'"
It's recruitment and retention, squad building!
It's only mixed from your interpretation, I think Tansey has been a good signing for us and helped us improve our attacking options, ok he has dropped the odd ball but far too much is made of that. Lauaki has done well overall, he could do better I believe but in now way has he been a bad signing. Long was a good signing, he has not had enough pitch time to show it but it's not Agar's fault he broke his elbow. Turner has potential and had a mixed first year whilst Thorman and Reardon I agree with.
Overall along with the players he has got rid of and those he has kept then that is a good record to have. Sharp and Westerman will be success too I feel.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"It's recruitment and retention, squad building!
It's only mixed from your interpretation, I think Tansey has been a good signing for us and helped us improve our attacking options, ok he has dropped the odd ball but far too much is made of that. Lauaki has done well overall, he could do better I believe but in now way has he been a bad signing. Long was a good signing, he has not had enough pitch time to show it but it's not Agar's fault he broke his elbow. Turner has potential and had a mixed first year whilst Thorman and Reardon I agree with.
Overall along with the players he has got rid of and those he has kept then that is a good record to have. Sharp and Westerman will be success too I feel.'"
That's fine but I was talking about recruitment! If you broaden it to squad-building then I agree that he appears to have made mostly the right decisions in who should leave.
Re his signings though, I like watching Tansey and I'm not so worried about him dropping the odd ball as looking at whether Agar has found us a genuine fullback, a position we've struggled with since S Briscoe left.
Lauaki we'll have to agree to disagree, he has all the potential to be an absolute wrecking ball but he just isn't
If you interpret Long as a good signing then fair enough but I don't see how when you admit yourself he hasn't shown it yet. He hasn't shown it because of injury but Agar knew he was injury-prone and took a gamble, O'Meley was a gamble in terms of fitness and it paid off so Agar gets the praise.. therefore when he takes the gamble and it doesn't pay off you can't also say he's done well!
Westerman and Sharp are irrelevant as they haven't played yet.
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