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| Quote: Diogenes "Absolutely. There is a reason why supporters are deserting the club and its largely the fault of the club, not the supporters.'" .... so you are agreeing that "The previous regime, and the bad advice received by AP at the beginning of his tenure has contributed massively to any shortfalls".
So why advocate "deserting the club" now?
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| Sad to see him go but it's far from the end of the world . Hope the international outside back were after is a so it gives Lancaster and Naughton a run on the wing .
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| Quote: B0NES "Sad to see him go but it's far from the end of the world . Hope the international outside back were after is a Centre so it gives Lancaster and Naughton a run on the wing .'"
So do I. See no point in recruiting a winger.
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| Quote: Diogenes "So it's your case that the club must be run as a business and cut its cloth accordingly and can count on the supporters to irrationally and blindly keep faith with it whatever happens?
For my part I'm not going to blame those supporters who have had enough and nor should the club when the club's financial predicament is largely of its own poor decision making.'"
Overstating it a bit.
It's my case that supporting a club isn't a purely rational transaction. If we supported only success we'd all be Leeds Rhinos fans.
Supporting a club is a turbulent pastime. If everyone ditched it when the going got tough, there'd be no club to return to when the sun came out. AP's made mistakes and as I've repeated should be more humble in admitting them. But our greatest chance of success, (and avoiding a firesale) IMO is to back what the club are trying to do. I believe the more supporters we can get back, and the greater the revenue we can generate, the better our chance of challenging. Just my opinion.
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| My daughter will be upset as he's he favourite player. No doubt she'll get over it.
If true he wants to leave - and I have no reason to believe otherwise, recent interviews notwithstanding - then my opinion of him is frankly unfit for family consumption. I have zero sympathy for players who quit on us while contracted unless there are exceptional circumstances. If either Lancaster or Naughton are fit I'd drop him and let him spend the rest of the season at Donny.
Yes, I am a vindictive old b'stard.
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| Quote: Kosh "My daughter will be upset as he's he favourite player. No doubt she'll get over it.
If true he wants to leave - and I have no reason to believe otherwise, recent interviews notwithstanding - then my opinion of him is frankly unfit for family consumption. I have zero sympathy for players who quit on us while contracted unless there are exceptional circumstances. If either Lancaster or Naughton are fit I'd drop him and let him spend the rest of the season at Donny.
Yes, I am a vindictive old b'stard.'"
Said the same to a friend, hr isn't going to be our player so why should we do him any favours. Play Lancaster or Naughton
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| Quote: ccs "Quote: ccs "Absolutely. There is a reason why supporters are deserting the club and its largely the fault of the club, not the supporters.'" .... so you are agreeing that "The previous regime, and the bad advice received by AP at the beginning of his tenure has contributed massively to any shortfalls".
So why advocate "deserting the club" now?'"
Yes I agree about the previous regime and the bad advice given to AP. You can add to that bad decisions made by AP off his own bat.
I'm not advocating deserting the club, what I'm saying is don't vilify those who have decided they have had enough.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Overstating it a bit.
It's my case that supporting a club isn't a purely rational transaction. If we supported only success we'd all be Leeds Rhinos fans.
Supporting a club is a turbulent pastime. If everyone ditched it when the going got tough, there'd be no club to return to when the sun came out. AP's made mistakes and as I've repeated should be more humble in admitting them. But our greatest chance of success, (and avoiding a firesale) IMO is to back what the club are trying to do. I believe the more supporters we can get back, and the greater the revenue we can generate, the better our chance of challenging. Just my opinion.'"
I agree with much of what you say and like you I continue to back the club but I can understand the reasons of those who have decided they can no longer do so.
At the end of the day only a better product on the field will stop more fans leaving and hopefully bring back those who have already gone.
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| To be fair, do we know that the club were actively trying to sell a player to balance the books?
Maybe an offer came in for a player that Radford thought could easily be replaced internally and / or didn't want to be at the club anyway.
The culture of the club has been a problem for years on end. Maybe he is shipping out those, no matter how high profile, that don't fit into the culture he's trying to build?
Salford have a cash rich owner. Didn't stop them taking £100K off us for Sneyd though.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "To be fair, do we know that the club were actively trying to sell a player to balance the books?'"
@James_Smailes: @jameshullfc not skint but balancing books. Crowds down, paid 100k for sneyd last year, new training ground etc. if player wants out, sell
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| Well pigs do fly .
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| Also said in nosey Parker column on Monday that hull were selling , to get cash to pay Manu what we still owe him .
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops " We had years of underachievement before AP took over..'"
And three & a half years of under achievement since he took over?????
i25k/140k is a steal for a 22yr old of his ability, & I don't buy `it doesn't matter' because
we have Lancaster & Naughton, - they've only played a handful of games between them.
Lower crowds Imo is down to the excruciatingly boring rugby served up over the last couple of seasons.
Exciting players attract crowds - we have 2 - Lineham, & Shaul who if the rumours have any substance is
also on his way out.
A couple of years ago our backline was Shaul (McDonnel) Lineham, Crooks, Yeaman, Briscoe
Young/ promising , all with their best years in front of them (OK one obvious exception) If Shaul goes we've lost the lot,
except Yeaman. - Progress?????
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "@James_Smailes
Heard from reliable source that lineham had a fall out with Radford and is now regretting his decision but the deal is done
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| Quote: The Sensible One "Heard from reliable source that lineham had a fall out with Radford and is now regretting his decision but the deal is done'"
Utter pap, the same was said about Briscoe and Manu wanting to change their minds.
He's leaving, get over it.
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