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dear ExiledFromHull

everthing you have stated is based on IF
therefore IF Hull City MAY need the KC POSSIBLY, SOMETIME during the season, lets not book anything else JUST IN CASE they do.

Lets deny any other committments so long as Hull City are not inconvenienced,eh? OH also, lets not upset the Football Premier League, eh?

Perhaps though, lets book a RFL International at the City of Kingston upon Hull's COMMUNITY stadium, because 25,000 residents of THIS city would go and enjoy this occasion.

WE THE TAX-PAYER...WE THE RESIDENTS OF HULL...WE THE THOUSANDS OF RL FANS....are ignored, just in case/imagine/if/possibly...the football club might need the stadium.

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Clearly he is doing his job.
Right now you can pick one of dozens of examples of mis-management of companies, and the effects they have.

You cannot be-grudge a man for being transparent, and taking a balanced view to such a decision.

I think a lot of people are working on the assumption that a City match is going to take place that weekend - remember - not even Duffen/SMC know.

What would he do if he drew Man Utd/Liverpool/Chelsea who needed to play on a Saturday before a Champions League game.
Imagine if that Saturday coincided with the international

Duffen and SMC would be branded absolute fools by all parts of the City.
]Premier League would have a hissy fit.
UEFA would go mental.
the RFL wouldnt trust Hull again to host an international
].'"



In a nutshell...........it was a football influenced decision, he wasn't transparent when he wasn't 'available for comment' was he?
And aren't you being presumptious saying the PL and UEFA would spit their dummies icon_wink.gif

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Yeah, and which sane business man, or manager books something on an 'IF'??????????????

Clearly you are not in management - because if you did, you'd understand you NEVER comfirm to anything on an 'if'.
And if you are in management, then youre operating practises are somewhat hap-hazard.

As for being inconveneinced, you clearly havent read what i put in my last post!

Duffen and SMC would be branded absolute fools by all parts of the City.
Premier League would have a hissy fit.
UEFA would go mental.
[ithe RFL wouldnt trust Hull again to host an international.
[/i

If you were in Duffens shoes - would YOU risk that? Would you? HONESTLY?

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Sporting clashes which cant be avoided - nature of the business and hopefully you have the people in place to deal with it!

Sporting clashes which CAN be avoided - poor management, irresponsible, amatuer and naive, and the people who created the situation should be sacked

So people, which management team would you prefer?

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I'd prefer the one that would maximise the capabilities of the stadium (and profits) rather than one that lives in fear of inconveniencing the Premier League.

Over here Hockey and Basketball teams share the same facilities and they play 3/4 times a week (the seasons run at the same time). They also have the added trouble of having to take up/relay the basketball court each time they switch use. If they can manage all of that then you'd think we could manage to fit in one additional RL fixture for one fooking weekend at the KC.

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Quote: ExiledFromHull "Sporting clashes which cant be avoided - nature of the business and hopefully you have the people in place to deal with it!

Sporting clashes which CAN be avoided - poor management, irresponsible, amatuer and naive, and the people who created the situation should be sacked

So people, which management team would you prefer?'"

What? icon_confused.gif

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Do you want the management company who deliberately creates a Problem,

or do you want the management company who can deal with a problem they didnt create?

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Kingston Upon Hull Hockey Club dont have to travel from Auckland and need 5 months to plan a home match!
They also dont have to let Humberside Police know when they have to cancel leave to ensure they have enough officers to be at their game, they also dont have to let Sky know when to co-ordinate facilites etc etc.

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Quote: ExiledFromHull "KOSH

Do you want the management company who deliberately creates a Problem,

or do you want the management company who can deal with a problem they didnt create?'"

I'm not sure why you think that those are the only two alternatives. Bit of a pessimistic view of things TBH.

A truly competent management team would have found a way to square the circle, or to at least not have left half the city's sports fans feeling hard done to and insulted.

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Quote: ExiledFromHull "KOSH

Do you want the management company who deliberately creates a Problem,

or do you want the management company who can deal with a problem to favour football'"


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what would you have done then?

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Quote: ExiledFromHull "SPOOKY

Kingston Upon Hull Hockey Club dont have to travel from Auckland and need 5 months to plan a home match!
They also dont have to let Humberside Police know when they have to cancel leave to ensure they have enough officers to be at their game, they also dont have to let Sky know when to co-ordinate facilites etc etc.'"


SO? Book the RL game and let the Football League know that the stadium is not available on that date. If they still want City to have a home game that weekend they can play it on the Fri night or Sunday. No big deal.

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Quote: ExiledFromHull "KOSH

Do you want the management company who deliberately creates a Problem,

or do you want the management company who can deal with a problem they didnt create?'"


Tell you what we'll have Pearson back the man who managed both City and the SMC and also booked RL international matches...

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Quote: ExiledFromHull "KOSH

Do you want the management company who deliberately creates a Problem,

or do you want the management company who can deal with a problem they didnt create?'"


I'd prefer a management company that maximised the revenue for the facility, by undertaking as many events as they practically can. The fact that the SMC has not been able to commit to an event in late October/ November this year says to me that they have little idea of how to manage the stadium.

Football fixtures by definition cannot be set up until the end of this season, so how can they say that they cannot commit to an event as there might be a fixture in place? Simple answer is they can't.

There are plenty of factors to take into account when the footie fixtures are drawn up. An international rugby match, which could be set up NOW, or very soon, is one factor that would be taken into account when summer comes and the fixture computer is switched on. Simple really.

I wonder how this fits into the actual role of the SMC chairman. Would be interesting to see his job description.

Edit - spellings corrected - don't want Mr Duffen to think badly of me

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If it was that easy................dont you think they'd have done that?

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