the official never policed wigans 10m all game a gutsy effort from hull never gonna win it but had them rattled a couple of times, credit were its due

Pleased to see Harvey Barron start getting some plaudits on here
Came in early and made some errors which knocked his confidence but with him and Martin we will at least have two decent fast wings for the future amid all the gloom around the club.
Put two quality centres with these lads and we would have a backline to be feared.
Sorry but Hardacker and Chamberlain at centre just dont cut it.
Smith worked really hard today but his kicking from hand is terrible.
If we can find a running halfback maybe the boot of Abdul will get us better field position and end of set options which we need.
Feel we need to move Tuimavave to six next week and Smith back to nine with Balmforth and bring in another young back rather than Lane to centre which unfortunately is what Grix will likely do

Fash is never a front line forward,he's so ineffective at breaking through the line due to his size(or lack of it). Why on earth he thinks he's an hard case now who just manages to get penalised or sin binned god only knows. Don't know what he offers to the team.

Whilst not a brilliant performance against a clunky Wigan one it was a much improved one. Had we played like that against London it could have been so different. The gods still ain’t on our side with Cartwright failing a HIA and Chamberlain picking up an injury.

Think we have 2 very good young wingers in Barron & Martin. Be nice if we can get a bit of quality in centres as think they’d score quite a few especially if we can get a quality running half in.

Today just shows that no matter how much effort you put in without any real quality you’ll come up short.

This why the blame game people are often unfair in having a go at strength and conditioning and physio. It’s a tough physical came and one team has to suffer more than another.. it maybe that we won’t get another win. Rest of season is trying for 2025. Not bad today but no guile, as you say. Thought Smith did ok.

It may take a run of injuries like this next season for Fash to get anywhere near the 1st team.id sooner promote a youngster and bin him off…he’d go well at West Hull,

Thought Moy was very good and,imo,looks better than Robertson at Sts but won’t be mentioned as he plays for us and not Sts.

It was a poor quality game. Wigan were pretty average but still dominated us.

Shame about cartwright

We limped to 300 points for the season yesterday after 24 games - an average of 12.5 per game.

Our top try scorer is Lewis Martin with eight, he's the only Hull player to have scored more than five tries all season. We've not scored more than thirty points in a game since Wakefield at home last August. We've not score more than fifty in a Super League game since Leigh away in June 2021.

A shocking few years. In terms of go forward yesterday,

Fash 53m
Ashworth 30m
Gardiner 40m
Ruan 18m
Aydin 61m

I've left out cartwright and Chamberlain due to their injuries so that is 202m from those 5. Herman made 131 on his own.

I think we’ll get more from Ashworth. Wigan are very strong on post contact and if as people say, are offside all the time then hardly surprising. Fash is never going to tackle bust just big tackles and workrate. He seems to be copping it from fans at mo. But yep wish could have had a fit and disciplined Pele

Yet according to the coach Gardiner played big minutes yet only made 40 metres

He did play big minutes, did you not watch the game?

He also made 39 tackles.

Hardly saw him playing
That reflects him only making 40 meters despite playing longer minutes than usual
Big him up if you want but he is another who will end up in the Championship or lower

I didn't big him up, just presented the facts.