Personally I'm still undecided. The only two times he's had a run of games he's looked very good but then suffered injuries. A game here and there, plus being played out of position is not conducive to good form. Somebody else said he looked like he lacked confidence tonight. Given that he played well against Saints & got dropped, then was the best of a bad lot (in the 3/4s) against Widnes & was still the only one to get dropped, and all the while is watching Crooks have an absolute mare of a season in his stead, I'm not too surprised it might be a bit down. Must wish he was a crackshot goal kicker.

by the way not you knockersbump lol

crooks is being left in for his kicking now though aint he..can't be anything else at themoment


hull2524, yeah I know you were talking about standee

Replacing Sid Domic would be a start.

Absolutely gutted to go out. Had a bad feeling though when Carvell wasn't playing, and when they went in front. Disappointing that a tonne of effort brought no reward - again. Is Westerman injured too? Would be the dog turd icing on a crap cake evening.

He had his calf iced up and was limping - not a good sign.

Poor defence and a lack of composure really cost us last night. We should be closing games down at 28-18 or 34-24. We have some great youn players but unfortunately they are showing their inexperience.

It was a pretty crappy way to lose but I can't say I'm devastated to exit the Cup. We are not good enough to win it and the thought of a lucky draw and a Wembley hiding by Saints or Leeds is not a good one.

never made the journey down for this one,listened on the laptop,which is now somewhere at the bottom of the garden,after going out the cup like that.still ,i`ll be down for the giants game thursday.

I'm surprised you took the 2 to make it 36-30. Yes you extended the lead and in the end earnt yourself a draw and took it to golden point, but had you tapped that penalty and gone on I think you'd have scored and put the game to bed.

As it was, we went down the other end and scored in the dying seconds. Negative tactics which showed how you weren't confident.

We were poor last night though, made some shocking defensive errors which gifted you pretty much all your tries.

Unlucky though and see you at our place in the league.

Same could be said for both teams.

Oh I agree, both teams weren't great. I obviously only paid close attention to Salford and we we're very poor in defence again. Mullaney dropped some shockers and Meli didn't know what he was doing at times (luckily made up for it with his hattrick).

Dave K just read your post on true Salford board, nice touch and well played. Very gratuitous.

It's a matter of opinion and yours is clearly different to mine but at no time have I seen Arundel look 'very good'. He's been just about OK in some matches and that's about it. As I've already said Crooks should spend a reasonable amount of time away from the first team as I don't believe he currently has all the attributes required at SL level. He needs to be stronger and also a bit braver when defending. I don't agree with him all the time but Richardson on the radio had it right when he said that there's a bit too much shirt grabbing and arms length tackling with Crooks and he needs to get his body in a lot closer and his head in the right place to improve his defence.

On the other hand Crooks does look good with ball in hand and that's why it's worth persevering with trying to improve his defence. With ball in hand he's a lot better than Arundel in my view - his balanced running is top class. Not seen much of that when Arundel has played. I understand the point about having 'a run of games' but actually what Hull FC needs is at least one and ideally two decent experienced centres (Shenton/Collis types) who don't need a run of games but can slot in and do the job required at the level required most weeks without being nurtured or protected or worried about loss of confidence etc. Until that happens we will have too many errors and too many weak areas for opposition to exploit - something that clearly happened last night.

Game could have gone either way, Salford had the momentum going into GP, so know they would win, we needed to hang on in the 80, but some poor individual errors cost us, Chase really took advantage of these and as poor as Meil can be, playing against a poor defensive playing on the wing really helped him.

Said two weeks ago, not too much between the teams and I fancied both clubs to win one game.