Most (un)blind people saw Maloudis game as poor - unfortunayely there are some clueless fools who never saw his horrendous mistakes

If you had asked that question 3 years ago most would have said this would be absolute dreamland. Success brings out a misplaced sense of arrogant entitlement unfortunately. Guess which teams won the title in those years? Yes, the perennial biggest clubs in the comp. We've seen a remarkable turnaround under Radford and are missing some of our biggest hitters including a 2 time Lance Todd winner. No need to have an aneurysm losing to a side scrapping for the top 8 when we have Shaul, Talanoa, Griffin, Sneyd, Bowden, Abdull, Manu out.

I think our squad for next year is good, but we really really miss Watts and it doesn't look like we'll replace him. That's a mistake IMO. Happy with the backs, halves and back row if we keep Westerman.

I think that he had the talent but wasn't given a decent chance and obvs the injury hasn't helped, the way things are I reckon it's too late for him now at Hull to be a XVII player but IF we are to hold on to him I'm not sure loaning him out is for the best. He'll be another that has fallen through the net in the last 4.5 years I'm afraid and points back to what I've been saying all along.

Castleford? Los of injuries but they have a top class coach.may be a whinger but knows how to play the game and get the best out of players

Warrington also have had their fair share of injuries.

Like i said you cant keep blaming lack of performance on injuries

when he first came on the scene he looked really good, went of a bit then got that bad injury, looks to have lost a bit of pace and think his best position is centre, not sure hes fallen through the net as still with us, hes looked ok without being standout,

Sean Long and a plethora of quality internationals started out as cover in and out their clubs first team, got bad injuries, got loaned out and then developed into class in their early to mid twenties. It is NOT a hindrance to progression if you have the talent. Stop banging on about this, it's total nonsense.

but we had 7 first teamers missing tonight and have had others missing for long periods, not a case of going on about it but its the main reason we are struggling, cas have had injuries but cant remember wires missing 6/7 players on a reg basis,

I think he will fall through the net.Would need some big performances from him to get his confidence back but i dont think he will get the chance.
Turgut is the same,both youth Internationals that havnt kicked on and more than likely end up as Championship players.

Regarding injuries, we (Cas) and you guys have definitely been the worst hit. Losing 7/8 players from a squad is bad enough but both teams seemed to have pivotal players out all year. We've not played a game I don't think with a first choice spine, no full back all year, no half backs and no top try scorer lol. Then Watts and Moors taking it in turns on the treatment table leaves us with no Plan B. I'm confident if you had Kelly, Sneyd, Connor and Houghton available all year and likewise we had Gale etc, both teams would be Top 3.

It’s and could have beens
All nonsense

Connor wouldn’t have been at 6 and played for England if Sneyd and Kelly we’re fit
Injuries are normal
In 2016 we had barely any and guess what ?
We blow the easiest chance of a Treble

Last night we had 7 out of the first choice 17 missing, that's almost half of those who would be playing. Despite that we really could have won had those on the pitch performed at even a half decent level. Is that progress or does it indicate that some of those players just aren't up to it?

If you look at the younger players

fash
masi
downs
logan
miloudi
scott

How many of those do you see developing into top SL players or even regular SL level starters?

Our attacking structures are poor - do we play like leeds under mcdermott? Too off the cuff with not enough structure or is it just because our main organiser isn't on the pitch (sneyd)

Defensively we aren't as aggressive as some teams. We seem to have a static defensive line and give away too many metres easily. Our goal line defense isn't good enough, our wingers constantly jamb in creating easy tries out wide and our compressed defense doesn't spread quickly enough creating space on the outside.

We still don't have a mindset of backing up meaning breaks invariably don't turn into tries and our passing is woefully slow and easy to read what we are doing.

Plenty to fix up IMO but you really can't judge this season too harshly given the long and numerous injuries to key players. If we finish the season in 5th it will have been a reasonable achievement IMO.

And for those amongst us saying about cas and their heroic performances - what happened to them last weekend?

Wont get away with injuries in the modern day, teams are miles fitter.

We got battered by a very good Catalans team on the day. That's the thing with injuries, the young players coming in cannot replace the injured players on a consistent basis.

As an outsider looking in, Hull have had a terrible time with injuries this season, not just numbers but key players. I think you should cut the team some slack, 5th is a good position all things considered and you still have a shot at the 4, especially if you can get some key players back.

We had plenty of injuries when we played Saints away in the cup but put in a great performance that day.

That was because we had the right attitude and commitment.

Last night both attitude and commitment were seriously lacking.

Our defensive line was all over the place and the gaps were alarming at times. Massive difference in how Huddersfield defended their line and how we did.

In attack players were passing for the sake of it and not drawing the opposition to them.

We can do it but our attitude has to be right. Last night it was way off.