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Quote: PAUL M "Oh for gods sake Long is in a no win situation with some people.
"If he had said "Now I am back I should play instead of Obst." he would have got exactly the same reaction.

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Hope he comes in for Horne.

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Quote: barton baird "Long is in a no win situation with some people.
"If he had said "Now I am back I should play instead of Obst." he would have got exactly the same reaction.'"


True. He has said nothing wrong and most people have been saying he should not walk back in so go figure!

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Quote: Staffs FC "Hope he comes in for Horne.'"

Was thinking that earlier - Long and Obst in the halves. Whiting on the bench for Westerman?

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Quote: Kosh "Was thinking that earlier - Long and Obst in the halves. Whiting on the bench for Westerman?'"


Horne off the bench maybe? Could cover 9 or play 6 and allow Obst to move. Might provide some pace in the middle of pitch when defences are tiring.

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Quote: Kosh "Was thinking that earlier - Long and Obst in the halves. Whiting on the bench for Westerman?'"


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would be my choice. No reflection on Turner who was by all accounts one of our better players in France but I see Whiting as the better wing option and Turner covers plenty of positions from the bench as Whiting would have. FWIW listening to Agar tonight on Blunderside I reckon he might just drop Horne - he alluded to the fact that it wasn't that difficult to make changes this week after some of the performances in France.

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Quote: PAUL M "Horne off the bench maybe? Could cover 9 or play 6 and allow Obst to move. Might provide some pace in the middle of pitch when defences are tiring.'"

I did think of that as an option but if Horne is as far out of form as people have been saying maybe Whiting is the better shout? Although he hasn't been pulling up any trees recently either I guess.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Phelps
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would be my choice. No reflection on Turner who was by all accounts one of our better players in France but I see Whiting as the better wing option and Turner covers plenty of positions from the bench as Whiting would have. FWIW listening to Agar tonight on Blunderside I reckon he might just drop Horne - he alluded to the fact that it wasn't that difficult to make changes this week after some of the performances in France.'"

Not a fan of Whiting on the wing TBH.

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Quote: Kosh "Not a fan of Whiting on the wing TBH.'"



I see Turner as the same really. The other option is to play Lyne there again - don't think he'll bring Sharp back this week.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I see Turner as the same really. The other option is to play Lyne there again - don't think he'll bring Sharp back this week.'"

We are struggling on that wing, aren't we? No really good options.

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Quote: Kosh "I did think of that as an option but if Horne is as far out of form as people have been saying maybe Whiting is the better shout? Although he hasn't been pulling up any trees recently either I guess.'"


Still supports well and put in a good kick for the Briscoe try so there are moments from him.

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Quote: PAUL M "Still supports well and put in a good kick for the Briscoe try so there are moments from him.'"


I'm a big fan of Horne's and think he was doing OK/well up until the Cas game. I just think his form has dipped over a few weeks now and in a key position the team can't afford that. In that respect I don't think he should be treated any differently to say for example Will Sharp who was dropped due to form issues. In the past we haven't had options to drop halves but we have now and we should do so. Kicking out on the full on the first set under no pressure, getting caught with the ball and failing to beat the defensive line with attacking grubbers are not signs of a half in form and that was just in the last game. There are moments but he needs to be consistent - the performance of the whole team mirrors that.

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Hope Horne stays in. Last time I saw him (Bulls), his support play was great and short kicking game is looking good too.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I'm a big fan of Horne's and think he was doing OK/well up until the Cas game. I just think his form has dipped over a few weeks now and in a key position the team can't afford that. In that respect I don't think he should be treated any differently to say for example Will Sharp who was dropped due to form issues. In the past we haven't had options to drop halves but we have now and we should do so. Kicking out on the full on the first set under no pressure, getting caught with the ball and failing to beat the defensive line with attacking grubbers are not signs of a half in form and that was just in the last game. There are moments but he needs to be consistent - the performance of the whole team mirrors that.'"


Which is why I would play him off the bench. Houghton will need a spell.

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