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Quote: UllFC "call it controversial if you like

but I'd seriously consider bringing Berrigan back at centre. Our backs are still weak and Berro would offer a bigger threat out-wide than Whiting (who I rate, but he isn't a centre) and Houghton simply can't be consigned to short spells off the bench in form like this.

none of the players missing tonight should be able to just walk back into the side when the 'lesser names' are playing like that'"


I wouldn't disagree, probably at the expense of Turner. He took his try well, but in defense he has a habit of getting caught ball-watching and drifting out of position.

I do actually think that Lauaki should walk back in, for Cusack with Radford moving back up to prop. The fact that 3 of the 4 props have been singled out for threads about their performances speaks volumes about the 4th IMO.

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Quote: UllFC "call it controversial if you like

but I'd seriously consider bringing Berrigan back at centre. Our backs are still weak and Berro would offer a bigger threat out-wide than Whiting (who I rate, but he isn't a centre) and Houghton simply can't be consigned to short spells off the bench in form like this.

none of the players missing tonight should be able to just walk back into the side when the 'lesser names' are playing like that'"

I'm really not convinced that Berro has the pace to play centre to a high standard any more. And I know that he definitely wants to play hooker. My guess would be a Berro/Houghton partnership again but with Houghton having a larger role than before.

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Quote: carl_spackler "I wouldn't disagree, probably at the expense of Turner. He took his try well, but in defense he has a habit of getting caught ball-watching and drifting out of position.

I do actually think that Lauaki should walk back in, for Cusack with Radford moving back up to prop. The fact that 3 of the 4 props have been singled out for threads about their performances speaks volumes about the 4th IMO.'"


Indeed. I really noticed the lack of impact in the second row when Manu went off. Having Lauaki aswell allows us to have a real threat in the 2nd row on at all times.

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Quote: Kosh "I'm really not convinced that Berro has the pace to play centre to a high standard any more. And I know that he definitely wants to play hooker. My guess would be a Berro/Houghton partnership again but with Houghton having a larger role than before.'"


TBF our current centres aren't exactly lightening. I just think that our 3/4's are our weak link atm, we seem to concede so many tries out wide and Berrigan's experience would help out a great deal IMO.

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Quote: Kosh " My guess would be a Berro/Houghton partnership again but with Houghton having a larger role than before.'"


I agree, and I think it would be unfair on Turner who, IMO, is coming on leaps and bounds in the centre. Getting better each week and starting to make it his own.

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Quote: scarrie "TBF our current centres aren't exactly lightening. I just think that our 3/4's are our weak link atm, we seem to concede so many tries out wide and Berrigan's experience would help out a great deal IMO.'"

I'm not so sure it would, as the problem seems to be with the sliding defence leaving the wing/centre partnership exposed rather than individual failures most of the time.

Fair point about the general lack of pace in our centres though.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "I agree, and I think it would be unfair on Turner who, IMO, is coming on leaps and bounds in the centre. Getting better each week and starting to make it his own.'"


TBH I thought he and Whiting were our weakest links tonight. At one point I considered whether or not one of them might have a restraining order out on the other their positioning was so poor. Took his try well but seriously needs to work on his concentration.

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Quote: Kosh "I'm not so sure it would, as the problem seems to be with the sliding defence leaving the wing/centre partnership exposed rather than individual failures most of the time.

Fair point about the general lack of pace in our centres though.'"


Fair point. I'll be honest and say I'm not too clued up on defensive structures and the like but would having an older head out wide helping to marshall the defence help at all?

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Quote: Kosh "I'm really not convinced that Berro has the pace to play centre to a high standard any more. And I know that he definitely wants to play hooker. My guess would be a Berro/Houghton partnership again but with Houghton having a larger role than before.'"


I meant as a solution until Calderwood returns to offer more options on that side.

and I doubt Berrigan is any slower than Whiting who've we've played at centre most games this season

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as far as im concerned berrigan could slot in at centre no probs, but i do like turner there......if berrigan returns to hooker, houghton surely must get longer stints.....as much as i like whiting, the man has no pace and thus is no winger...we could play turner at wing and berro at centre leaving houghton to rip it up...

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Quote: carl_spackler "TBH I thought he and Whiting were our weakest links tonight. At one point I considered whether or not one of them might have a restraining order out on the other their positioning was so poor. Took his try well but seriously needs to work on his concentration.'"


I agree with the sentiments for Whiting, but not Turner. He tried to keep the line the best he could, but ultimately it's the wingers role to stay on his wing, not the centre's. He ran in the ball hard and looked for work where he could.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "I agree with the sentiments for Whiting, but not Turner. He tried to keep the line the best he could, but ultimately it's the wingers role to stay on his wing, not the centre's. He ran in the ball hard and looked for work where he could.'"


Sorry, really don't agree. He came far too far inside at times, even with Whiting 10 yards from the touchline they were still a further 10-15 apart. Also, a few times in the first half he came up quickly to his opposite number, and when the pass didn't come he just stayed in no man's land and watched Saints play leaving a broken/staggered line in his wake.

Agree he did ok with the ball though.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Sorry, really don't agree. He came far too far inside at times, even with Whiting 10 yards from the touchline they were still a further 10-15 apart. Also, a few times in the first half he came up quickly to his opposite number, and when the pass didn't come he just stayed in no man's land and watched Saints play leaving a broken/staggered line in his wake.

Agree he did ok with the ball though.'"


It was nice little step to change direction that got him in for our second try.

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Thought Houghton lifted the pace after the first try of the second half. A few quick scoots got us on the front foot and allowed Moa and O'Meley to get a roll on. took his try well.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Sorry, really don't agree. He came far too far inside at times, even with Whiting 10 yards from the touchline they were still a further 10-15 apart. Also, a few times in the first half he came up quickly to his opposite number, and when the pass didn't come he just stayed in no man's land and watched Saints play leaving a broken/staggered line in his wake.

Agree he did ok with the ball though.'"


Will be good to see what he is like at centre with a 'true' winger beside him.

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