It's not losing to Wigan in isolation that annoys me. It's 4 years of being so far behind the top teams. Our record against the rest of the top 8 is dire, our record against the top 4 since Agar came is shocking, our record in knock out competitions is shocking. We're further away from the top teams than we were last year too.

Dowes is useless

Because we virtually always play the way we have tonight. We raise our game but make far too many mistakes. That's why we generally don't get mullered but never manage a win.

since the 65th minute despite all the possession we have not completed a set of six in one way or another - how can we build any pressure turning the ball over or stupidly offloading on the 3rd or 4th tackle? the game was for the taking with 15 to go an we blew it with bad decision making and panic plays - how we need a top half with organisational skills

To be fair if the opposition score a legitimate try then I don't see the point in booing them!

1 try in 2nd half , we have been truly awful in the last 20 mins of our games under Agar and even now the 2nd half

Havent hull had more penalties of thaler

Well that was closer than it might have been, but all the more disappointing because of it. If we had a brain we'd be dangerous.

No sound of any Agar Out chants on TV or radio.

Don't let fact get in the way of a good moan!

Bad luck Hull, going to be an exciting next few games and end to the season.

At the end of the day does it matter whether we lose by 10 or 60? Also, over the past 4 years we've taken our fair share of mullings from the top teams too.

Yep, the big race to see who goes to Catalan and gets hammered. Can't wait

15-8 penalty count to Hull if im correct

Of course it does. They have this thing called 'points difference' for starters.