Cartwright has played and coached at the very highest level, not even on the same planet as Gene.

Plenty of experience looking at Wiki. Integrity too, reading the paragraph about Turner. More positives than negatives. We won't know if whoever is appointed will be be successful or not so everyone is a gamble.

"After he finally retired as a player, John Cartwright became an assistant coach at the Penrith club and the Sydney Roosters. In 2000 he was awarded the Australian Sports Medal for his contribution to Australia's international standing in rugby league. [citation needed]

Cartwright began coaching at Penrith as the reserve coach in 2001. After a period as assistant to Ricky Stuart at the Sydney Roosters, as well as coaching the United States national rugby league team against the Kangaroos in 2004,[5] Cartwright was appointed the inaugural coach of the Gold Coast Titans after their admission to the National Rugby League.

He became involved in a feud with Melbourne Storm winger Steve Turner over contractual obligations. "We flew him up, showed him around for two or three days and he agreed to me that he would come here, we shook hands. He looked me in the eye. The deal was done. He even started looking for accommodation. I only coached him in a couple of games at Penrith and my reaction has been the same as it would be for any player in this situation. But to do what he has done . . . I'm not happy. I'm extremely disappointed, to say the least." [6]

In 2009, he was selected to coach the NSW Country Origin side. He later guided to the Gold Coast to consecutive finals appearances in the 2009 NRL season and the 2010 NRL season, the latter of which saw the Gold Coast reach the preliminary final. In 2011, the Gold Coast claimed their first Wooden Spoon under Cartwright's coaching.[7]

After four years without making the finals, on 5 August 2014 he announced that he would stand down as head coach of the Gold Coast, with immediate effect. He would coach the club one last time against the Sydney Roosters in Round 22 before Neil Henry taking over on an interim basis.[8]

In February 2015, Cartwright joined the North Queensland Cowboys as an assistant to head coach Paul Green.

On 4 October 2015, John Cartwright was a member of North Queensland's coaching staff in the side's 17-16 Grand Final victory over the Brisbane Broncos.

In the weeks following the Grand Final win, Cartwright quit the North Queensland club and returned to Sydney as an assistant coach of the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles.[9]

Following the 2020 NRL season, Cartwright was announced as an assistant coach for the Brisbane Broncos, working under their new head coach Kevin Walters."

Not sure where the "young English coach" thing has come from. I don't believe I have seen anything saying as such. In fact when AP did his interview after sacking Smith he was purposely vague on that saying it could be a domestic appointment but it could be an overseas appointment. HDM have repeatedly said that they believe Hull's preference is "for a British coach, or at least one who knows the ins and outs of the Super League competition" but there's never been any mention of it being a young coach as far as I am aware.

And the key word there is preference. That's not a fixed thing. They'll be adapting based on the candidates that present themselves. In fact this is the most recent quote from MylerOur head coach appointment needs to be the right fit for what we want to do over this next period of time, and this person has to buy into what we want to achieve. The names of the people that we have been linked to are very experienced coaches; they will add elements to us, and that person coming in here will be vital to the vision that we go forward with. Those conversations need to be thought through to make sure we get the right guy.'"

Plenty of players who’ve played at the top level, doesn’t make the a good coach, Fitler for one, and visa versa.

He's a no nonsense guy.

Davidson says he's the 'lead candidate'. Interesting no HDM story yet.

Given our recent recruitment of players and coaches, I guess im just sceptical. Our record of appointing assistants hasn’t really worked lately. Hopefully Myler has done his due diligence.

to be fair, he is on the same planet as gene

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... fc-9289690 Not convinced after reading that

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... fc-9289690 Not convinced after reading that

I would prefer a younger, up and coming coach who is more likely to innovate, but plenty of examples of those not working. Maybe cartwright just hasn't wanted the extra responsibility and stress of being a head coach in the NRL?

myler should be out there talking to prospective coaches face to face and also picking the brains of anyone and everyone he can find

Apart from saying we're being linked with experienced coaches, Myler is not indicating anything there about where the coach will come from. Personally, I'm more bothered about, as Myler says here, them being the right fit and the right guy.

Is that Cartwright? Spoken previously about not knowing much about him. Biggest con for me on the surface is that he hasn't been a head coach for about a decade. But pro's are that he seems to have been regularly employed since then as an assistant in good successful setups so will have kept up with the day to day elements needed for coaching. If he had been out of the game for awhile or involved in a higher up capacity such as being a DOR, I'd be more concerned.'"

Hopefully he is doing just that. Although we're in the news a lot at the moment, the media hasn't gone as far as reporting on his every movement... yet.

Maybe the club have asked the HDM to be a little more candid with their news stories on the next coach, as the Rowley one was played out massively in the press and ended up not happening

Never understood why the club has insisted that being british and having SL experience is priority, realistically the market for that sort of coach is incredibly slim, the one candidate that fitted that bill was Rowley, who we have given up on.

What other options in SL is there? Wellens, Burgess, Peet, Watson, none of which are going to leave their current roles

Then you look at other targets like McDermott, Agar, etc which rightly 99% of people would turn their nose to.

Some of the best coaches this competition has seen over the years have had zero experience of the game in this country, you could call it a gamble, but to me it’s one I feel we have no other option but to take.

It feels like, post the Rowley links, we have just wasted time in unrealistic targets, glad to see we’ve finally broadened our search.