How long did that last though? History says you can't bring someone in above the head coach and keep everyone happy, the two things tend to be mutually exclusive.

I personally agree with those who say it should be a clean sweep of the coaching staff this time. We've tried keeping continuity with the backroom staff and so far it would appear to not be working, not to mention that they've obviously been learning from substandard coaches anyway. Bring in a completely brand new coaching staff at first team level at least.

I know this. Not sure or really care if it lasts - as far as I'm concerned it's a short to medium term solution to get us out of the rut, with everyone saving face. We all know the new bloke would be running the show. Not too bothered what happens 8 months down the line with Agar - if he makes himself invaluable, great. If not, well...

Fair enough, but I'm not quite sure why we need to bother trying to appease Agar or save face. He's been given ample support and opportunity, he can have absolutely no complaints if he's given the bullet IMO. I also don't understand the train of thought that sacking a coach is like admitting you're wrong, so the board don't want to do it. No coach lasts forever, there's no point holding on when it's obvious to all that we've reached the end of the line.

Extremes that I've never heard anyone but you use. That doesn't illustrate a point, it undermines it.



If there is no doubt, I'd imagine you'll be able to find loads of posts where that is the case. From what I remember, most people thought that he'd be a good choice for two or three years, with the odd dissenting voice.



Apart from the fact that you think he's 'average to good' and I think he's 'very good', I suppose we might agree. And there's never been any animosity, merely a robust response to a post I thought was rather silly.

Silly me.

I don't think there is any question of appeasing Agar at all. It is more about a realisation of Agar's value and his role in the club. I have no doubt about Agar's technical abilities and if the club and more importantly, Agar himself can realise and accept his abilities and his weaknesses, then there would be no reason to let him go.

If he feels he cannot work to those conditions or a new coach feels he's the wrong man for the job, then Agar should be given every encouragement to find alternative employment.

But knowing our lot, they'll throw the baby out with the bath water

Precisely.

After thinking about it maybe Agar for head scout?.

Why????? We can't pass ,can't kick , are a disorganised rabble when it comes to last tackle plays , don't support the man with the ball , have tries scored against us before we wake up/just before half time, have a number of youngsters that come through and look like rabbits in the headlights , have been unable to persuade/inspire/educate certain players to be professional , etc etc etc . What exactly are Agars undoubted technical abilities that I constantly hear about??????? Is it something to do with IT? It certainly isn't "us" communication skills.

Seen a fair good whack of the highlights too, did you see the attempted tackles by Houghton and Lauaki for one of the tries in the second half, came off a lost ball from you guys. Was nearly as bad as Cook and Co's attempt on Hoffman on Fri

Was awfull wasnt it, so boring to watch, i just couldnt watch it, went out into the garden and told my lad to shout me the score, watching the grass grow was more exciting.

What a joke.

why?

Agar is a good technical coach, he just isn't a manager of men.

How can you say that?
What does that actually mean anyway because people keep saying it?? 'a good technical coach', cant see any evidence of it.
He cant even coach the basics!!