Myself and five pals have renewed once again this year. We have over 100 years of loyal support under our belts but we have all agreed that the only reason we have renewed our passes is because we didnt want to lose the seats we have and the convenience of being able to arrive at five to eight and walk straight into our seats. None of us enjoyed last season very much (apart from the comeback against Sts and the first KC derby), neither are we enthusiastic about next season. All around our seats, the majority of people share the same view and will no doubt renew their passes for the same reasons. At the end of the day, the club won't mind too much about the reasons why fans renew so long as they do so but there doesnt seem to have been much discussion about why the club really made east stand all reserved.

If they didnt- and with lower pass sales leading to more empty East stand seats - then people like me and my mates could choose to renege on a pass and pay on the day (we all miss a couple of games each season due to work/hols etc so the discount isnt an incentive). Once that happens, a tipping point is reached when there is no advantage to getting a season pass other than the saving but - as one poster has already stated - take out the rubbish games against the likes of Salford, Wakey, Crusaders etc and the casual fan has saved their money already!

The onyl way to boost sales again for 2012 is to give the fans some hope that the team will go better on the pitch and no marquee signing can do that now. Only ridding us of Agar can do that

Have we done 5k yet?

Seems unlikely as they have not reported anyone winning the 5000th pass wonka prize yet.

Rovers have done 5500

Have we had any numbers announced since the deadline passed? I reckon 7k this season.

A 2k drop would be horiffic, enough for a head to roll

I will be surprised if we go past 7500 this season. Credit crunch and so much job uncertainty's in the city. Plus add to the fact the lack of entertainment last season and many believing we will see pretty much the same style of rugby again this season, unfortunately.

Why, 2K in the current economic climate isn't a huge issue, all clubs will see a drop (well, other than those betting the farm on selling loads to counter short term cash flow issues).

Econimic Climate is no worse than it was 12 months ago, so to use it as an excuse is poor form.

Really, so things like the collapse of Connaught didn't happen this year, I must have missed them going 12 months ago.

People really need to stop bagging the club for no reason, it's not as if they don't give us enough genuine ammunition.

The average man on the street is no worse off than he was 12 months ago. Did 2000+ of our pass holders suddenly lose work this last 12 months?

And what about the average man that can't afford to walk down the street?

So, I take it your cost of living hasn't increased, lucky for you.

Also, do people not think 8 days of this weather might have had a bearing?