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Quote: Chris71 "You know why and which comments.

No one is really saying the 8th is great however putting it all in to context from where we were at the end of last season and with all the constraints, 8th is a positive which most rational supporters can comprehend.

Again most supporters know you don't need and can't have 17 world beaters hence why most can see why players like Fash and Cator are needed at the club.

As for making excuses about needing his own team, you yourself have gone on and on about the number of poor players you think are at the club all of which are/were under contract when TS came in. So unless the club could have paid off all these players contracts there is little that could've been changed (though the club have done what they could) so whether we like it or not we have to wait and be patient. Those are plain facts not excuses.

Its been discussed plenty by everyone on here and rightly so that the 'its always next season' line won't work anymore however the changes made by TS within the club and amongst the same core group have shown big improvements in attitude, effort, application, performance and consistency. This again points to the current season as being positive as we have seen a distinct change in the style of play to a more entertaining brand of rugby and more improvement & change in 8 months than we had seen in the previous 4+ years.

It really isn't and shouldn't be that difficult to understand.'"

We're playing more flowing rugby

But our better players are leaving without Clifford and swift I don't know where we'd be without them

But my point is we will never get to that next level with certain deadwood still in the team

And we will be having this discussion this time next season 100% until they are gone