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Quote: Standee "Don't be silly!!

If Agar had a Ferrari, he'd convert it to LPG to save money!'"


Do you know, the car analogy has cropped up in my mind too. We have done the equivalent of buying a Bentley to plough fields.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Do you know, the car analogy has cropped up in my mind too. We have done the equivalent of buying a Bentley to plough fields.'"


like that one too!

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Quote: Big Dave T "I disagree though about what he's demonstrated. I've seen all the core skills from him to think he'll do a decent job there if needed.'"


From what I've seen, there are still major question marks over whether he has the necessary distribution skills to play hooker. He has very seldom passed the ball quickly and accurately.

I also can't honestly say off-hand whether his kicking game is any good, which is another option needed at dummy half.

For me, there are still more question marks over his hooking ability than supporting evidence.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I'd say more a different opinion rather than a fixation. I've debated with myself what value Berro can add in the centres vs 9 and believe that it's in the best interest of the team to play him in the centres, even if that exposes us at 9 with Washy playing there. I just think we get more value out of Berro in the centres, i've not been quiet about my disappointment over the last few years with Berro's performances at 9.

It really could be like having a brand new international back signed up.'"


A brand new international back that wouldn't receive any service because we'd be lacking in the middle. We have options in the centre. Assuming Yeaman will be playing on one side, any one of Briscoe, Whiting or Turner could play on the other side. Whilst each of those options has its own inherent weakness, all are better than playing Washbrook at hooker.

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Quote: carl_spackler "From what I've seen, there are still major question marks over whether he has the necessary distribution skills to play hooker. He has very seldom passed the ball quickly and accurately.

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This gets to the heart of the matter, for me. How many attacks seem to break down when he gets the ball at stand off? To be an effective hooker, you need to be taking the correct attacking options most of the time and execute them well. I don't think Washbrook has the speed of thought, or the accuracy in his passing game to do this.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Or maybe we could leave him at hooker and play the right kind of attacking game to suit him. You know, with dummy runners and a quick ptb and stuff. The argument of how much value we get out of him is entirely of the club's own making IMO, and not his fault. So for people to keep levelling it him accusingly is besides the point.

It really could be like having a brand new international hooker signed up .
I agree that the team around him havent been very good, but i still firmly believe that Berro's performances that were within his gift to control havent been up to scratch at 9.

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Quote: Rock God X "A brand new international back that wouldn't receive any service because we'd be lacking in the middle. We have options in the centre. Assuming Yeaman will be playing on one side, any one of Briscoe, Whiting or Turner could play on the other side. Whilst each of those options has its own inherent weakness, all are better than playing Washbrook at hooker.'"


And this is where i disagree. With limited service Berro received in the centres at the end of the season he showed us what we've missed since the likes of Barnett SNR imo.

If we play Berro 9 and use Whiting in the right centre with Horne and Long in the halves we have exactly the same side and same issues out that we've chosen in 2010. Big changes needed, one of which is Berro to centre.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Personally I'd say that apart from the blip this season when he had personal issues off-field, it's been more that the team around him haven't been good enough or played the right game for him. Individually, he has still looked a cut above his teammates the rest of the time in terms of ability IMO.'"
Finally, some sense on the issue.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Or maybe we could leave him at hooker and play the right kind of attacking game to suit him. You know, with dummy runners and a quick ptb and stuff. The argument of how much value we get out of him is entirely of the club's own making IMO, and not his fault. So for people to keep levelling it him accusingly is besides the point.

It really could be like having a brand new international hooker signed up .
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Quote: PAUL M "I saw him make breaks for Aus/Queensland and Brisbane and I have seen him make breaks for Hull and he does seem to have lost that edge in pace, that's how I can possibly tell. It had nothing to do with his age, that was your assumption.'"


Well if that's correct there is something really wrong if it's noticeable over short distances like that, probably more of a case for him to play centre as he won't be effective running out of dummy half.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I agree that the team around him havent been very good, but i still firmly believe that Berro's performances that were within his gift to control havent been up to scratch at 9.'"


Then we disagree. For the vast majority of his time here I think he's done all he can barring miracle plays every game.

When given runners he picks the right passes and executes them well, and has set up tries this way. When given quick ptbs he runs from dummy half well and makes breaks, he's gained us ground and set up tries this way. When we've had the opposition penned in he's kicked well from dummy half to keep the pressure on, he's forced repeat sets this way.

The problem lies in the fact that prior to this season we did none of the above on a regular basis. When we did he showed his class.

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Quote: Big Dave T "And this is where i disagree. With limited service Berro received in the centres at the end of the season he showed us what we've missed since the likes of Barnett SNR imo.'"


You must have seen something I did not. He played well, certainly, but we never looked any better in attack because of it.

Quote: Big Dave T "If we play Berro 9 and use Whiting in the right centre with Horne and Long in the halves we have exactly the same side and same issues out that we've chosen in 2010. Big changes needed, one of which is Berro to centre.'"


For a start, Long and Horne hardly played in 2010. Secondly, as spackler has already pointed out, our attacking structure is rubbish. We have no dummy runners, the play the ball is frequently slow and the backing up is non-existant. Moving Berrigan to centre won't solve those issues - particularly if it means playing Washbrook at hooker.

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Quote: Rock God X "You must have seen something I did not. He played well, certainly, but we never looked any better in attack because of it.

For a start, Long and Horne hardly played in 2010. Secondly, as spackler has already pointed out, our attacking structure is rubbish. We have no dummy runners, the play the ball is frequently slow and the backing up is non-existant. Moving Berrigan to centre won't solve those issues - particularly if it means playing Washbrook at hooker.'"


Might not solve the issue but imo will make us a more dangerous team. The only way to solve the issue will be to bring a decent coach in, but dont get me started on that again!! icon_biggrin.gif

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Why is it so many FC fans can see what is missing from our game, yet nobody at the club has done anything about it for about 5 years?!?!?!

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Guys, I have all the answers to our hooker problems...

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Have we played him there yet? icon_lol.gif

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