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| Quote: RAB C "This is what i said a few weeks ago look at St Helen's average crowd each week 9.000 crap ground but squid class you can never wright them off in any game now look at Hull F.C 12.000 fans at a game like quins or Catalan best ground in the league but that's it. When you dont have a Bord that will spend the money to make this club be one of the best in the league well i think they should just sell up and move on speculate to accumulate i think is the Fraze if they think they are earning good money off us now when they just bring in any average Jo if they put there hands in there pockets and got a world class coach and some world class player's they would earn double dont you think if the fans can see this the Bord must be able to but until they sell the club i can not see anything changing'"
We have had world class players, we have spent money on some occasions.
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| Quote: Standee "We have had world class players, we have spent money on some occasions.'" Maybe we have but when was the last time we had a world class number 7 but. dont you think if they just spent a litte they would have the trust of the fans and they would earn there money back if not dubble it i no this is crap to say but look at the likes of rovers the bord want them to do well so they get the players they want and need as wee dont and i think it all just comes down to weather the bord wish to spend that little bit of money
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| Quote: RAB C "Maybe we have but when was the last time we had a world class number 7 but. dont you think if they just spent a litte they would have the trust of the fans and they would earn there money back if not dubble it i no this is crap to say but look at the likes of rovers the bord want them to do well so they get the players they want and need as wee dont and i think it all just comes down to weather the bord wish to spend that little bit of money'"
The thing is Rovers board isn't all that great, they have just profited from our mistakes. Letting Briscoe go, not having Cooke on a signed contract and us not being prepared to offer good money to gain Dobson. I know people say that Tony is better then Briscoe, or Dobson wanted silly money but it don't look too silly now does it with KR sitting pretty in the league.
What we need is to sign a top class scrum half on a 3/4 year contract and build a team around him.
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| Quote: pmarrow "The thing is Rovers board isn't all that great, they have just profited from our mistakes. Letting Briscoe go, not having Cooke on a signed contract and us not being prepared to offer good money to gain Dobson. I know people say that Tony is better then Briscoe, or Dobson wanted silly money but it don't look too silly now does it with KR sitting pretty in the league.
What we need is to sign a top class scrum half on a 3/4 year contract and build a team around him.'"
Don't forget the MOTM performance by Briscoe last week
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| Thing is how many world class 7's are there? Maybe 3 or 4 in the NRL and 1 at best in SL. They are all tied up to their clubs (have a think when was the last world class 7 to move clubs? Probably Scott Prince 3 years ago!). Usually it is about having decent players that can play well then adding a sprinkle of class where you can find it and finally getting a good coach who can pull it all together.
All clubs are on teh same salary cap so it comes down to getting best bang for your $.
You may be waiting a long time if you are waiting to get your hands on a world class 7!
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| Quote: pmarrow "The thing is Rovers board isn't all that great, they have just profited from our mistakes. Letting Briscoe go, not having Cooke on a signed contract and us not being prepared to offer good money to gain Dobson. I know people say that Tony is better then Briscoe, or Dobson wanted silly money but it don't look too silly now does it with KR sitting pretty in the league.
What we need is to sign a top class scrum half on a 3/4 year contract and build a team around him.'"
Being an ozzie is a massive advantage with overseas recruitment. In addition to having contacts there is also the fact he will know about a range of players. dobson, galea and, to a lesses extent, newton were not big name players yet are performing well for teh dobbins. This, of course, is allied to better coaching than our current incumbants are capable of
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Thing is how many world class 7's are there? Maybe 3 or 4 in the NRL and 1 at best in SL. They are all tied up to their clubs (have a think when was the last world class 7 to move clubs? Probably Scott Prince 3 years ago!). Usually it is about having decent players that can play well then adding a sprinkle of class where you can find it and finally getting a good coach who can pull it all together.
All clubs are on teh same salary cap so it comes down to getting best bang for your $.
You may be waiting a long time if you are waiting to get your hands on a world class 7!'"
We don't need a world class 7, we need a good 7 who can organise the team and who has a good kicking game (and stays fit). With teh best will in the world, dobson isn't a great player, he just does the organisation well, kicks well and his support play is excellent. The fact he is young and manages to get on the field every week is a bonus
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| Quote: RAB C "Maybe we have but when was the last time we had a world class number 7 '"
Whilst I believe that we cant compete with many clubs when it comes to player recruitment and that our recruitment policy is utter dross, There isnt a single SL club who has a world class 7. The only ones I remember in the SL era are Langer, Johns and Jones. We cant expect a world class 7 becuase the amount of money needed to bring one here would be ridiculous, we just need a good halfback, I think we should look at players with talent and potential on the fringes or even reserve grades of the NRL.
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| Those who say that without our board there would be no club are talking rubbish imo. Whether anyone has tried buying the club or not is irrlevant. If the club was put up for sale it would be much more likely someone would make an offer. Generally in sport, when someone wants to sell a club, they end up been able to sell.
But why would they want to sell? The main reason would be because they don't make enough money. Thats easy to ratify if supporters were committed enough. I wouldnt recommend a boycott but if no one did the lottery, bought merchandise, didnt buy away tickets in advance from the club etc then it would be much harder to make a profit.
Then there are sponsors. If the club has an image that its current board are disliked, that is bad for the club and may effect companies wanting to sponsor.
Theres another way is to scare the board away from the cub but I dont want to talk about that as thats an idea I really dont like, but its an idea none the less.
Boycotts of games are useless. The best protests are inside the ground. I've said it before, but banners etc get the message across, especially on Sky games. You can also have sit ins after the game, either on the pitch or in the stands. I'd definately take part if there was a large protest after the game on the pitch. Also after the game their could be a large protest outside the entrances to the stadium. With enough numbers you could even get up to the directors boxes etc, its not exactly hard to go to them.
At the end of the day, anything that is done would need people leading the way, and making it well publicised. The board may have done good things for the club but they have done bad things too. In 3 of the past 4 season there have been major '...gates', and they are hiring staff who are getting together a crap team on the pitch, and staff who are ruining the potential of our young players, turning some of the top youngsters in the country into average SL players. How many players from the 05/06/07 u21 finals are top players now? How many have become average SL players? How many are now in the lower leagues?
A clubs failure, no matter what it is, always has its roots at board level. Its how the board deals with it that matters and at the moment they are not dealing with the problems at this club, in fact at times they are the problem
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| Quote: The Key "Those who say that without our board there would be no club are talking rubbish imo. Whether anyone has tried buying the club or not is irrlevant. If the club was put up for sale it would be much more likely someone would make an offer. Generally in sport, when someone wants to sell a club, they end up been able to sell.'"
Offers have been made. A price could not be agreed. If the board wanted to leave, and could not agree a price with a prospective buyer, they could simply call in their debts, cut their losses, and close the club.
This may be unlikely, but it is possible. It would depend on the difference between the highest offer and the amount of cash that could be reclaimed from the defunct club.
You really want to roll those dice? For what? A change of shareholders with no guarantee that the new board would be any better than the old, or that they would have sufficient resources to properly fund the club going forward?
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| Quote: The Key "Those who say that without our board there would be no club are talking rubbish imo. Whether anyone has tried buying the club or not is irrlevant. If the club was put up for sale it would be much more likely someone would make an offer. Generally in sport, when someone wants to sell a club, they end up been able to sell.'"
one notable exception from the last few months being Newcastle FC.
Given the current financial climate I'd be suprised to see people queueing up to buy Hull from the current board tbh.
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| Quote: Neil HFC "one notable exception from the last few months being Newcastle FC.
Given the current financial climate I'd be suprised to see people queueing up to buy Hull from the current board tbh.'"
Bit of a difference between the £100's of millions asked for a failing football club and a profitable RL club' asking price
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Bit of a difference between the £100's of millions asked for a failing football club and a profitable RL club' asking price'"
A profitable club that apparenbtly still failed to be sold in the not to recent past.
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| Quote: Neil HFC "A profitable club that apparenbtly still failed to be sold in the not to recent past.'"
Failed to sell because the sellers aren't really that interested in selling
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Thing is how many world class 7's are there? Maybe 3 or 4 in the NRL and 1 at best in SL. They are all tied up to their clubs (have a think when was the last world class 7 to move clubs? Probably Scott Prince 3 years ago!). Usually it is about having decent players that can play well then adding a sprinkle of class where you can find it and finally getting a good coach who can pull it all together.
All clubs are on teh same salary cap so it comes down to getting best bang for your $.
You may be waiting a long time if you are waiting to get your hands on a world class 7!'"
Just out of curiousity, who do you see as the world class 7 in SL?
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