Can’t argue with your post and its quite alarming, without being too dramatic if Cas and Wakey get a few wins I can see us being in serious trouble as there is just no fight or desire in that bunch.

No credit to Leigh then?

Nearly as good as we’re going to get this season squad wise, fair to say it’s very worrying. Players look so unfit it’s almost pathetic, contact is so weak in defence.

Thought Ipape ripped us to pieces, him and Lam staying fit will see Leigh do just fine.

Where does our next win come? Are we lucky that Wakey and Cas are as bad as they are?

You deserved the win , Three errors one penalty , Four tries to Leigh . Will we ever learn .... Probably not this season !!.

I am also concerned, and we arent mentally fit for a relegation battle, the players would crumble ina 4 pointer at Belle Vue or the Jungle

A few players either know they are going or just arent good enough and id rather us play the kids as they are the future. Such as Litten was very good today and played with pride.

Yes, congratulations on the win. Better team won and you totally outplayed and out enthused us. Lam was terrific.

Very poor from Hull again. No pace whatsoever and the defence is a shambles. As has been said we knew this would be a tricky year and a transitional year but the work need to transform this squad is huge.

The pack especially are terrible. We have a quota player not good enough for the XVII and Sao is a total liability.

Leigh were the better team as you played with speed and intensity and deservedly won. However in all honesty you should have been out of site by halftime and with two sun binning as there is more to say about how poor we where as Leigh didn’t have to do anything special. Thought Lam Ipape looked a handful but we simply gave you far too much time with such slow and lazy effort.

You thoroughly deserved the win and out played us at times. Good luck for the rest of the season.

On reflection when I stated we have a stronger squad I was talking bollox.

Did Hull not capitalise on Leigh's errors? We were clunky 2nd half you know.

For me that was not even an average performance it was so, so below average particularly in the first 30 minutes Leigh out enthused us totally and for a visiting team to do that against us with the players we have and with over 10,000 FC supporters there just wanting to see some effort its very worrying . Leigh are a good team but we should have beaten them yet after around 20 minutes none of us in there were in any doubt that the game was lost. Our discipline is appalling really (Tony Smiths words as well as mine) and with the teams that have strengthened this season and the competitiveness of the division that was relegation form, no doubt about it we should be very afraid I feel. The thing is we have so many good players who are just looking like they are tossing it off for periods in games. To be honest and some will say it's early days but we are a quarter of the season in and we have seen two performances as bad as we have see at the stadium since we moved there. Brian Smith is a great Coach he has however only signed one player and boy it shows as the same old same old is seen comes from the rest. With the games coming up these are worrying times I predict a valiant defeat at Warrington and then back to normal.

Damage done first half . Hull not smart enough to capitalise on anything atm . We give props the ball on the 5th tackle !!

Leigh thoroughly deserved the win.
Good away support today too. Well Done.

Our sets are an absolute joke and we are totally clueless and unorganised. How many times are we caught on the last because we haven’t the brain power to realise it’s the last and not organised enough to able to put a kick in. Talking of kicking that’s another part of our game that is severely lacking.

Im also starting to think that we've been so bad for so long that we've collectively forgotten what good players look like, like what position does Joe actually play and is he in fact a good Rugby player? Or was he just one of the few players who were putting an effort in a year ago and looked slightly better than the rest of the dross?

Likewise is Satae a top impact prop or does he just look the part? And what has happened to Sao since the World Cup Final is a mystery

Scott failed his HIA so misses next week.