No one is denying that he is a good coach and yes we were chuffed when he got us to two semifinals.

However the way he announced his departure took the gloss off his achievements. He had every right to make the decision he did and no one coukd have a problem with that. However whatever went on behind the scenes the way he made the announcement showed another side to his character.

I can comment on the good things he did at our club with great pleasure but I can also comment on the dark side of his actions. That is not having things both ways it is talking about two different issues.

How he deals with the deep seated problems at FC will be interesting to watch.

Strange that he only had problems at Rovers. I'm not aware of any "dark side" to his actions at Huddersfield, Leeds or Warrington.

If the majority of clubs are at full cap, then coaching has to be the difference between success or failure. Unless you have a brilliant recruitment window, like we did in 2016.

Just feels like the Dobbins projecting their perceived TS faults on here is an indication of their worry, as they know as well as us that we haven’t had a proven head coach in years.

It’s also notable that TS specifically mentions upon his appointment what a big club FC is. Can’t recall him making the same comments when McGuire persuaded him to take the Dobbins job.

As I said earlier, time will tell.

Every new manager and every new player says good things about the club they have signed for. You would not expect anything else. It does not mean that in their heart of hearts they actually believe what they are saying. There is no reason to believe that TS is any more realistic than anyone else.

FC fans continually claiming to be a big club is only to reinforce their own delusions. If FC really were a big club the fans would have no nead to continually make the claim. Wigan, Saints, Rhinos’ fans are not continually making the claim. They just know they are.

That’s because they’ve fulfilled their potential, which we never have. Hence the phrase “sleeping giant”

So you are not just a big club but also a sleeping giant.

More comatose if the last derby is anything to go by.

All the above is conjecture. What is fact is that for the last two seasons Rovers have been the better side in the City. Not much of an achievement I admit when you consider the present state of the opposition but but nevertheless enough to bring a tiny smile to the face.

Got to thank Rovers for that, beating us last game, has done us a massive favour, could be our best result in the last two years.

and leeds and st helens cas the list goes on

No.

I kept it brief as I know you don’t read if too long.
You only won one more game that us and that's because Wigan played an academy team against you, not sure why you are getting so excited, your list goes on for years and even this season managed to get easily beat by Toulouse.

Really don't understand the Rovers fans coming on here like they have won the grand final last season, rather than finishing 8th.

The future's bright, it’s black and white and they’re trying to bask in the glow

Not too mention the only reason they finished above us 2 years ago was because it was based on the stupid % points rule.

A season where they beat Leigh 3 times which boosted their % and when it came to playing us they cried off with covid knowing the positions in the table could be reversed

Oh dear, so many excuses. We are a big club, we are a big club, we are a sleeping giant, we are a comatose giant. We are……. What in earth are we?

:keiththegreen:

We are a club were our fan base under the age of 40 has seen us win a major trophy. One of only a few that has won any sort of silverware in the last 30 years, a club that has just moved into a brand new world class training facility, playing in one of the best grounds in SL. Why does it bother you so much?