you should have gone to Mersey side radio,that’s where I found it after missing the firstb20minutes.

That is where I ended up, which is ironic given I live west of the pennines.

Sounded like we where rubbish, I thought we had a shot, I think we've settled on third, quietly out of the CC and go again next season with Warmington on Sea as the forwards.

how mamy teams have finished top half of SL with so many crushing defeats?

not a badge we wear with pride

Couldn't get over to Hull to watch the game, was expecting a close game too be honest. What happened to Connor did he play all the game just noticed his stats were 6 tackles and 1 carry for 5 metres thought it would have a good match up with Percival.

It also sounded as though the ref Kendal was below par as usual with a quite a few in our favour. Hull seem to be a Jeckyll and Hyde team Radford needs to get a grip sooner than later.

holbrook. He's transformed them

Our main problem is out pack and FB, I like Shaul, but he hasn't improved his link play enough, I'd look to play Connor there next season, if Shaul isn't happy he either needs to improve or look to leave, sounds harsh, but I honestly think it would improve our attack.

Which of our pack would get in Saints team, maybe only Taylor, but even thats doubtful on current form.

Think Radford sees this and with hopefully 4 new forwards, full off season for Bowden and Savelio, Griffin in the forwards. Another year for Lane and Masi hopefully this will improve our pack.

I said on the virtual terrace before the season started that the new rule changes play right into our hands. Holbrook has built the fittest most athletic pack in SL and no other team are fit enough to match our intensity. Warrington tried last week but couldn’t. We can keep it going for 80 minutes as we have no old school type impact props. We don’t need them. The game has changed but other teams haven’t adapted yet

Why is it though Dave, playing against a dominant pack we still took them on up the middle with predominantly 1 out rugby?
The only real time we threw the ball around we scored.
Now is that coaching and game plan or players mindset?
Whichever unfortunately it's been an all too common thread through Radford's tenure.
Holbrook was pitch side 2nd half giving instructions directly to Wellens and players alike, geeing them up even when they'd just waltzed through our defence and scored.

We had 1 eye on the cup semi

Defence is our biggest problem

Said it so many times. We need to exploit the referees who cannot keep up with the pace of SL. Saints did it excellently last night (as well as everything else). That level of rugby deserves better officiating. Hopefully we find some of our cup magic again and we can meet them at Wembley for a real classic.

Ultimately once again we were our own worst enemy. We really are a very good but very dumb squad.

On the bright side, I’ve had a shiite week and unloading it all on Kendall et al has helped no end

Cheers, well played

Agree 100%
Good support player is Shaul, but his ability to pass and create an overlap is sadly lacking.
Our attack looks more cohesive, with either Connor,or Wynne at FB..
With Westerman leaving, our attack next season will be unbalanced, with only 2 pivots..if Shaul is FB..

I'm not sure it makes much difference who full back is when the ball they receive is slow and telegraphed to the opposition like it invariably is

so.. Basically we need a full-time attack coach?

The 2nd try, by Fages looks like a knock-on on the challenge in the air. The 4th try, by Grace was a knock-on and offside, and the 3rd try, by Coote is debatable whether Sneyd was tackled without the ball and was Naiqama onside?

These amateur, park game rules need to be sorted out. We can't play some games using a video referee and some games not. It's a different set of rules, for different teams, for different games.