Downs I agree with, Logan was essentially backsquadded in 2016 to make way for Fonua, then we signed Connor and Griffin so backsquadding/stunting his development further and really is being asked to cover injuries nothing more and sporadically at that due to the coach picking a second rower over him on one occasion so think your comment is unfair about not cutting it.
As for Fash, had been excellent until his injury and playing in a much weakened team it's too easy to say he's not good enough loan hom out, I think you're wrong, very young, has great endeavour if not size and I'd sat loaning him out would be an injustice to him and again stunt his development not to mention a kick in the knackers. You might as well say put Houghton and a couple of others to Donny for a few weeks given how they've done if that is your yardstick. It simply is not always the solution to simply send players out on loan.

Don't think Talanoa strengthens us any but the rest is a gimme in terms of making the team stronger IF they perform to expectations.
We just need to keep plugging away, grab wins however and see what occurs whence the 8s start, it aint over til its over.

If Radford did say that, that's absolutely disgraceful and disrespectful by him, sorry but he should shut his mouth or say something else. He might be angry but to disrespect a player like that is not on!

Can we please put this injury thing to bed
Please
For those of us lucky enough to be at Elland rd in 82 - remind me again the injury list we had that night
A 39 year old winger ? Retired hooker ?
Please Stop mentioning injuries
That’s why Connor is number 34 ! We have a squad of full time players aged over 18
Lee Crooks was 18 at Elland Rd that night

You should always imagine your full squad then take 4 players out and that’s how it’ll be for the whole season on average

We are losing in the Mental stakes and that’s the coach - Simple !!!!!!!
We played as if AP had come into the dressing room and offered the team a bonus of 500 quid each if they won
Initially it looked like it hard had an effect then after about 15 mins the players seemed to realise that was a puss take

3rd and a CC win x 2 and probably 6th and no silver

Is that enough ? Maybe ?

Is that enough for AP ? Fans in general ?

Personally I would think long and hard about the set up for next season
I really would
Would I make a decision - If wait until season end then decide
The coach needs to think long and hard as to how he wants this season to play out
It should be a credit to him not a blot on his track record

I kind of agree, singling players out is something he did in his first season in interviews. Like to see the 10 ahead of him though, at least he puts his hand up

bumpy imo logan was top notch then got injured, hes done ok and offers cover but don't think he will be in our 17 when all fit, fash has the heart of a lion but for a prop just isn't big enough, again a good squad member, didn't mention loaning them out but not good enough to be in a starting 17 when everybody fit, there do a job but we struggle when there play a few matches, like to see litten given a run,

Most (un)blind people saw Maloudis game as poor - unfortunayely there are some clueless fools who never saw his horrendous mistakes

If you had asked that question 3 years ago most would have said this would be absolute dreamland. Success brings out a misplaced sense of arrogant entitlement unfortunately. Guess which teams won the title in those years? Yes, the perennial biggest clubs in the comp. We've seen a remarkable turnaround under Radford and are missing some of our biggest hitters including a 2 time Lance Todd winner. No need to have an aneurysm losing to a side scrapping for the top 8 when we have Shaul, Talanoa, Griffin, Sneyd, Bowden, Abdull, Manu out.

I think our squad for next year is good, but we really really miss Watts and it doesn't look like we'll replace him. That's a mistake IMO. Happy with the backs, halves and back row if we keep Westerman.

I think that he had the talent but wasn't given a decent chance and obvs the injury hasn't helped, the way things are I reckon it's too late for him now at Hull to be a XVII player but IF we are to hold on to him I'm not sure loaning him out is for the best. He'll be another that has fallen through the net in the last 4.5 years I'm afraid and points back to what I've been saying all along.

Castleford? Los of injuries but they have a top class coach.may be a whinger but knows how to play the game and get the best out of players

Warrington also have had their fair share of injuries.

Like i said you cant keep blaming lack of performance on injuries

when he first came on the scene he looked really good, went of a bit then got that bad injury, looks to have lost a bit of pace and think his best position is centre, not sure hes fallen through the net as still with us, hes looked ok without being standout,

Sean Long and a plethora of quality internationals started out as cover in and out their clubs first team, got bad injuries, got loaned out and then developed into class in their early to mid twenties. It is NOT a hindrance to progression if you have the talent. Stop banging on about this, it's total nonsense.

but we had 7 first teamers missing tonight and have had others missing for long periods, not a case of going on about it but its the main reason we are struggling, cas have had injuries but cant remember wires missing 6/7 players on a reg basis,

I think he will fall through the net.Would need some big performances from him to get his confidence back but i dont think he will get the chance.
Turgut is the same,both youth Internationals that havnt kicked on and more than likely end up as Championship players.

Regarding injuries, we (Cas) and you guys have definitely been the worst hit. Losing 7/8 players from a squad is bad enough but both teams seemed to have pivotal players out all year. We've not played a game I don't think with a first choice spine, no full back all year, no half backs and no top try scorer lol. Then Watts and Moors taking it in turns on the treatment table leaves us with no Plan B. I'm confident if you had Kelly, Sneyd, Connor and Houghton available all year and likewise we had Gale etc, both teams would be Top 3.