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| Quote: Mrs Barista "See the Ellis thread for posts that we're not hearing the truth about his back injury. And apparently on Humberside last night Kelly out for season with ACL damage.'"
Who said that on Humberside?
Not listened to that amateur station for a long time.
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| ok thanks for that
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| Quote: Karen "I'm not sure why what Knockers has said has been laughed at so much...maybe because it's him saying it and not someone else.
We did burn out towards the end of the season and Radders maybe should've rotated the big lads a bit more, both to give the youngsters chance to gain SL experience and to give the regular players a breather. Fresh legs worked on Easter Monday so why not give those players much needed game time and experience. I don't mean the wholesale changes that we saw against Warrington, but filtering the odd one or two in at a time would've been highly beneficial and I think Radders has taken that on board which is why we've seen him play more U23s in the pre season friendlies than usual.
If we want to compete for the treble, we need to be using the WHOLE squad and not expecting the same 17-20 players to do it week in week out.'"
Thank you, I described what actually happened, I've said before why Radford felt the need to keep with the senior players more often, his lack of experience and because he was under a lot of pressure otherwise he was potentially out of a job if failing again.
Although the junior/lesser experienced players played fantastic against Warrington he just couldn't get past that playing the 'best' 17 no matter what even though that doesn't work out to be the best on any given matchday if some of those best are that fatigued they would perform worse than a lesser experienced but much fresher player which is what happened in that Warrington game.
A million pounds in the stand RAdford said and yet we still beat a very handy Warrington side that had more 'better' players but were very likely more fatigued than our fresh players were.
I was more surprised that Radford didn't take this on board for the rest of the season.
Those saying we would have being knocked out in the 1st round (we couldn't because we didn't enter n the first round) or come 7th clearly have no understanding of rotating one or two players throughout a season not a whole forward line but then that's typical of the narrowed thought process of some on here.
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| It's just a blur of words after a while.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "It's just a blur of words after a while.'"
I got as far as "Thank you" then went for a lay down.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Thank you, I described what actually happened, I've said before why Radford felt the need to keep with the senior players more often, his lack of experience and because he was under a lot of pressure otherwise he was potentially out of a job if failing again.
Although the junior/lesser experienced players played fantastic against Warrington he just couldn't get past that playing the 'best' 17 no matter what even though that doesn't work out to be the best on any given matchday if some of those best are that fatigued they would perform worse than a lesser experienced but much fresher player which is what happened in that Warrington game.
A million pounds in the stand RAdford said and yet we still beat a very handy Warrington side that had more 'better' players but were very likely more fatigued than our fresh players were.
I was more surprised that Radford didn't take this on board for the rest of the season.
Those saying we would have being knocked out in the 1st round (we couldn't because we didn't enter n the first round) or come 7th clearly have no understanding of rotating one or two players throughout a season not a whole forward line but then that's typical of the narrowed thought process of some on here.'"
That wire game was an easter Monday game..They're lotteries when you've had tough derby games on the Friday
Was a good game and some of the young boys stood up well. But Sneyd was still our main man that day and they lost sandow 2nd after he'd ripped us up 1st.
Regarding the rest of the year some more rotation would have been good. But the young lads were really raw to play in big games. We'd hit a standard that made every game a key game..Would have been a gamble to throw young lads in given we were in for every trophy to the end so every game was effectively cup tie rugby. We were nt winning many games easily at that point of the season. We were winning via force of will and physicality. We won a ridiculous amount of games coming from behind(12 or 13 I seem to recall) often the old heads steering us right. Radders probably given his players were fit anyway thought it wasn't worth putting such a heavy responsibility on a young lad
He's still though seemingly realised given this years fixture list it's unavoidable. Hence getting lots of games into his 23s back up lads in pre season (and hes got flack for that as well)
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "It's just a blur of words after a while.'" It's because we're all too narrow minded to understand bumpy's argument, even though he's repeated it over and over again.
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "That wire game was an easter Monday game..They're lotteries when you've had tough derby games on the Friday
Was a good game and some of the young boys stood up well. But Sneyd was still our main man that day and they lost sandow 2nd after he'd ripped us up 1st.
Regarding the rest of the year some more rotation would have been good. But the young lads were really raw to play in big games. We'd hit a standard that made every game a key game..Would have been a gamble to throw young lads in given we were in for every trophy to the end so every game was effectively cup tie rugby. We were nt winning many games easily at that point of the season. We were winning via force of will and physicality. We won a ridiculous amount of games coming from behind(12 or 13 I seem to recall) often the old heads steering us right. Radders probably given his players were fit anyway thought it wasn't worth putting such a heavy responsibility on a young lad
He's still though seemingly realised given this years fixture list it's unavoidable. Hence getting lots of games into his 23s back up lads in pre season (and hes got flack for that as well)'" Excellent summary.
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| Think Radford is looking long term season wise. Playing under23s in the friendlies will serve us well when injuries inevitably bite.
Think we are under cooked slightly, but I imagine that's because we ran out of steam last year. Think the focus will be on how we finish the season, not how we start it.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Think Radford is looking long term season wise. Playing under23s in the friendlies will serve us well when injuries inevitably bite.
Think we are under cooked slightly, but I imagine that's because we ran out of steam last year. Think the focus will be on how we finish the season, not how we start it.'"
I think we are going in a bit under done too. Sure he'll have put stuff in place to look to win. But it's really almost like the season really starts v cats as that's the start of the week in week out grind. To play 1 game and be off a fortnight is ridiculous really. But win or lose Sunday we've then a fortnight of almost like an extended pre season to work on stuff
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "That wire game was an easter Monday game..They're lotteries when you've had tough derby games on the Friday
Was a good game and some of the young boys stood up well. But Sneyd was still our main man that day and they lost sandow 2nd after he'd ripped us up 1st.
Regarding the rest of the year some more rotation would have been good. But the young lads were really raw to play in big games. We'd hit a standard that made every game a key game..Would have been a gamble to throw young lads in given we were in for every trophy to the end so every game was effectively cup tie rugby. We were nt winning many games easily at that point of the season. We were winning via force of will and physicality. We won a ridiculous amount of games coming from behind(12 or 13 I seem to recall) often the old heads steering us right. Radders probably given his players were fit anyway thought it wasn't worth putting such a heavy responsibility on a young lad
He's still though seemingly realised given this years fixture list it's unavoidable. Hence getting lots of games into his 23s back up lads in pre season (and hes got flack for that as well)'"
Wish I could remember all that from last season, "everything after Easter is a blur". Bumpy does have his heart in the right place but his infatuation with Lee Radford is to say the least BORING. A lot of his posts are pretty good but if he would just lose the Radders vitriol, posters may see that.
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| After looking at the announced squad, I'm going, Manu to start and a bench of Green, Washy, Turgut and Connor. I'm also going for the win.
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| Quote: Armavinit "After looking at the announced squad, I'm going, Manu to start and a bench of Green, Washy, Turgut and Connor. I'm also going for the win.'"
I think Radford will also go with that bench.
Turgut has really played himself into the side.
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| Quote: Karen "I don't have far to come, I live in Cas!!
I ama little closer, Outwood. Will be good not have to drive to the match so I can sample a few scoops pre and post game
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "I ama little closer, Outwood. Will be good not have to drive to the match so I can sample a few scoops pre and post game
If I bring a tin of custard are you gonna supply the rhubarb?
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