It is. A performance like today after the Saints performance just makes you scratch your head.

Well, I for one can't wait for the off-season.

It's my favourite part of the year.

Funnily enough, the taxi driver (City fan) taking us to the airport a month ago came up with exactly the same theory. Oh how I laughed.

The worrying thing is that it sounds like it makes Radford scratch his head as well.

He sounded depressed and bewildered in his after-match interview. So at least he knows how the rest of us feel now.

You may laugh with your taxi driver but I do not trust. Its our Stadium We have a crap team , We have posts that should be in a park a pitch that has been shortend - I could go on .

It's not our stadium. We just rent it.

Can I make a not very popular suggestion? You weren't very good in the Saints game, Saints were just worse. We put in a performance that leads to 42-0 in Catalans or at hull Kr or at magic weekend (it happens) except, you didn't have the capability to take advantage of that and make us totally collapse. Instead, you scored 3 tries from barge overs, involving little skill owing to our poor defensive frailties and couldn't counter as our halfbacks were in uproar (without having the time to readjust like we did this week). Put Walsh, or even hohaia into the team, and it could well of ended up 30something - 18 to saints... (Hypothetically of course)

Don't get me who hull deserved the win, but it was more about saints losing than hull winning.

if but maybes

try watching abduls try again, hardly a barge over!

Abdul didn't score vs Saints? Lineham Paea and Horne did... All from 10 metres out ... From very poor reads from saints players.

And no ifs buts and maybes. I'm not making excuses for the saints performance. I'm saying beating us didn't make you as good as you seem to think, hence why today happened...

I was laughing [iat[/i him, Basher. He came out with all the old chestnuts, Allam's money bought us, Pearson's still 'working' for him, it's all a plot to impoverise us, preferably with relegation, so we have to vacate the KC leaving Allam's way clear. I know, I know, Hull FC aren't the only obstacle blocking his grasping hands, but my taxi driver assured me Allam views us as the major sticking point. So must be right, then.

I trust AP, because this stuff is the realm of fantasy - and I've made no secret of my distrust and loathing of Hull City Council's letting agent and his motives - but this was a step too far even for my conspiracy-mad mind.

"Why do you think," beamed Mr Cabbie, "that you are getting worse and worse despite all the promises and investment? Where are you in tthe league? Are you confident about next season?"

Well, what could I say?

I believe AP is doing what he thinks is best for his investment, but I simply cannot follow his reasoning either. It is a case of trusting in him, rather than understanding him for me, at present.

Having read through this thread I feel priveleged in some way to be so distant (physically) from the club.

I'm not a fan of Radford's but weighing up all the pros and cons: no matter what his on-paper credentials as a coach, notwithstanding his commitment as a "local lad". I seriously doubt he has the intellect to be a successful head coach of a Superleague club. His passion cannot be denied but I don't believe he can transfer that passion into a credible long-term strategy to improve the performance of the squad on anything even approaching a consistent basis.

Thankfully I don't have to debate whether I'll renew my season pass, I bought my last one ten years ago but he has given me absolutely no incentive to drive up to Hull and even watch a game. In fact, I cancelled my Sky Sports subscription last month because I couldn't even watch us play any more.

I was working today and I would usually try to take a break and get live commentary, or at least check on live scores. Today I waited until I got home to check the result.

Someone once told me that the opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy. Unfortunately I have now got to the point where I am pretty ambivalent about our results or even performances.

Thank you Messrs. Radford & Pearson, you have managed to do what no other combination of administrators or coaches have ever managed before.

Sorry my bad it was, a try is a try regardless how its scored

Not denying it. As I said in my first post I take nothing away from hull, they did what had to be done to get a win. My point was you could (and potentially should) of won by a lot more, given our form was more akin to our hkr away, Catalans away, magic weekend etc form as opposed to being any good.

The knock on affect being, despite beating us, you probably didn't play that much better than you did yesterday (I haven't seen both performances to compare) difference being the opposition weren't in capitulate mode...

you've put in to words how I feel much better than I did myself, even attending the home games has become a chore.

Of course how Saints play has nothing to do with the opposition. If Saints play well they win, if for any reason they don't they lose and an inferior team can beat them. No other team beats them on their own merit or get in their faces to force errors and make them play badly. Your arrogance is on a par with that normally only seen on this forum by those FC fans who hold the view that their team is always under performing. They are a big team as well you know. Why is it that your team never turn up at Craven Park. Look at the last six visits, your form always seems to desert you of course that's why we have been allowed to win isn't it!?