That is absolute tosh!!!

Grand Final winners are super league champions full stop.

I personally don't like a play-off system, it is purely a cash cow. I agree that after the completion of the regular season, the team at the top of the table SHOULD be the super league champions. That is simply not the case unfortunately.

Officially they are champions, however a lot of supporters still see the team that finishes top as the best team of the season and rightly so.

You reckon people would see Crusaders as champions if they won the GF from 8th??? Officially they would have been but a lot would not agree.

It's an opinion a lot of people have but it doesn't stop it being irrelevant, them's the rules and you have to judge performances accordingly.

It may be irrelevant but that doesn't mean you judge the performance based on that.... I'll judge my team on the basis that they, rightly or wrongly, finished 6th in the league which is still an achievement and i'd expect 5th next year!!

Any true judge of performance has to be based in the context of the whole competition, not the part of it that you think makes the most positive reading.

The playoffs are essentially a knock out competition. Wigan were by far and away the best team in 2010, if they had been knocked out of the play offs in the first round it would of been irrelevant imo. The play offs are a money spinner and that's all.

Quote: garry brindley "Makes it all the more intriguing where Berrigan's Bitch has got these emails from then, although it would be funny if the club had a different opinion on where they finished to the RFL! To clear this up please forward them to: Firstly I would never send you an e-mail...why would I want you to have my e-mail address The e-mails are on my works e-mail address, I will show them to a well know ex Moderator (Ian P) who will confirm the contents of each....Both confirm we finished 2010 6th!!!

Quote: garry brindley "Makes it all the more intriguing where Berrigan's Bitch has got these emails from then, although it would be funny if the club had a different opinion on where they finished to the RFL! To clear this up please forward them to: Firstly I would never send you an e-mail...why would I want you to have my e-mail address The e-mails are on my works e-mail address, I will show them to a well know ex Moderator (Ian P) who will confirm the contents of each....Both confirm we finished 2010 6th!!!

That doesn't change what I'm saying? Most people acknowledge that Barcelona were the best football team in Europe last year but they didn't win the champions league.. people don't go around saying that Inter Milan aren't the real champions though.

Before SL starts you know that the competition comprises a league element and a knockout element, to win it you have to be successful at both.

People think all sorts of things. Doesn't make them right.

The current system is the traditional one. End of. And in fact the whole time we had an uneven fixture list it was the fairest judge of the best team over the season, as in the league rounds not every team had the same fixture list. Now that we don't have that problem I'd generally prefer a system where the league leaders were declared champions and we had a separate Premiership in place of the playoffs and GF. I'm in a minority though.