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Quote: Big Dave T "Will agree to disagree. Whiting would struggle to get a contract at a top club other than for cover and if Calderwood wasn't injured at the start of this term i dont think Whiting would have been in our 17 yet.

Some of the real RL genius players over the years have had woeful defence. I agree, Hall isn't the best but i've also seen enough of him since been loaned to Widnes to suggest that he is working hard to sort that out. Getting dropped for things that weren't your fault isn't going to help. I think there's more to it that simply his performance.'"


I think that by enlarge I would agree with you Dave however I think that although he is a potent attacker, at present as the last match highlights on the club site show his defence at Wigan was woeful at times! OK he scored one try but he conceided two directly because of his actions. Once he came out of the line and missed his man completely the second time he got sucked in and left his winger. 12 points in a critical first half; game gone! Sadly although he was far from the only ones at fault in the overall performance I guess his mistakes do stick out a bit! He'll be back!

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Ithe last match highlights on the club site show his defence at Wigan was woeful at times! OK he scored one try but he conceided two directly because of his actions. Once he came out of the line and missed his man completely the second time he got sucked in and left his winger. 12 points in a critical first half; game gone! Sadly although he was far from the only ones at fault in the overall performance I guess his mistakes do stick out a bit! He'll be back!'"


Factually correct. Tough to pick out one guy but the fact is he was shocking defensively in the first half. Hull FC TV shows it.

As someone else has said none of us know how players go in training either which I'm sure also has a bearing on squad selection. Hall will be back if his character is up to it.

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if hall was directly responsible for allowing 2 tries at wigan who's fauly were the other 6

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Agar's comments on RH were as follows:
Calderwood back as first choice winger
Richard Whiting has played consistently well this season and was one of our better players against Wigan and therefore earned the right to keep the shirt
Craig Hall didn't play that well against Wigan but that was in the context of being uncomfortable out of position as he's not a winger.

None of these comments or the decision are that unreasonable. Anyone would think we've got Inglis available but are choosing not to select him because we've got the option of Brendan Hill in the 3/4s.

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Laugh indeed, would be even funnier if it wasn't true!

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Agar's comments on RH were as follows

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Quote: Standee "Laugh indeed, would be even funnier if it wasn't true!'"
I don't disagree.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Agar's comments on RH were as follows

This is, of course, quite correct.

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Quote: Big Dave T "As you're allowed to. Would be interesting to know how/why you think i am?'"


Isn't it obvious? There's no way he's looked dangerous 'every time he's had the ball'. Even a world class centre doesn't look dangerous every time they have the ball. Hall is/will be a decent centre. He's not the superstar some seem to imagine he is.

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Quote: knocker norton "I actually said Hall didnt deserve dropping after the Quins game to accomodate Whiting in the starting 13!

I would like to see Hall cement the starting centre position as much as anyone.'"


Sorry, it's the naff highlighting/bold since the site update. I was meaning I disagree about him being a right centre. For me, he's a better left centre.

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Wonder if they'll work that move from the scrum we did against quins and this time see whiting ghost through the gap and outpace the defence from inside his own half on Friday

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Yeaman's timing isn't as bad, generally he does enough to put to player off and sometimes come up with a big hit, i've yet to see one from craig.

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Isn't it obvious? There's no way he's looked dangerous 'every time he's had the ball'. Even a world class centre doesn't look dangerous every time they have the ball. Hall is/will be a decent centre. He's not the superstar some seem to imagine he is.'"

You keep saying this, but I can't say I recall anyone referring to him as a superstar.

People have different reasons for liking players, and it can be as simple as that player having a style that they prefer to watch. For me, Hall is the most 'natural' centre we have and the best attacking threat among our various options in the 3/4s. That doesn't mean I think that he's a superstar, as that class of player generally lacks the weaknesses that Hall unarguably has in his all-round game.

I do believe that he's capable of developing into a very good centre given a run in that position, which I guess is why I get frustrated when circumstances conspire to deny him that opportunity.

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