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Quote: Chris28 "Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"


How far in advance do they apply for the visa?

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Quote: Chris28 "Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"


I think the RFL and UKBA have done a fair bit of work between them, especially after the various embarassing c0ck ups that have occurred, FC are probably just covering their backsides before comitting to anything.

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Quote: Sheldon "How far in advance do they apply for the visa?'"

I presume once player and club have agreed terms they would apply straight away. Especially after recent years and players having visa problems. I would also expect a clause in any contract stating that if a visa is not granted then the contract is null and void.

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Quote: Chris28 "Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"


Didn't I read a few months back that the RFL have finally fallen into line with other sports like Ice Hockey and Speedway and are working directly with immigration on visa approval and expedited processing.

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Quote: Sheldon "How far in advance do they apply for the visa?'"


If they want him over before Christmas, no need to do anything till September/October tbh.

I reckon, as Standee says, they'll just be checking things out now to make sure there's no surprises when the application goes in.

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Quote: Standee "I think the RFL and UKBA have done a fair bit of work between them, especially after the various embarassing c0ck ups that have occurred, FC are probably just covering their backsides before comitting to anything.'"

There was a recent agreement between the RFL and UKBA that was supposed to bridge the gap in speed of Visa processing between RL and most other sports. I think part of that was some clarified guidelines for the clubs.

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Quote: steve_norton "Didn't I read a few months back that the RFL have finally fallen into line with other sports like Ice Hockey and Speedway and are working directly with immigration on visa approval and expedited processing.'"


Yes, I think you did. Still won't mean the visa gets approved though. You'll just get the refusal quicker! icon_lol.gif

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Here it is, frankly I don't know why it took them so long, other sports have been doing it for years.

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/0 ... -diminish/
Here it is, frankly I don't know why it took them so long, other sports have been doing it for years.

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/0 ... -diminish/


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Quote: steve_norton "Didn't I read a few months back that the RFL have finally fallen into line with other sports like Ice Hockey and Speedway and are working directly with immigration on visa approval and expedited processing.'"


rlYou did, April this yearrl

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Quote: downtheante "Genuinely, the reason I very rarely post here any more is because of the continued negativity that infests almost every thread. It rarely matters what the thread is about or who started it but it always ends up being a slagging for someone, Richard Agar being the main target.

We know people don't rate Agar - but it has become tedious beyond belief how many times the same small number of people slag him off - his team selection, his rotations, his selection of people in whichever position, his ability etc. We know how these few people feel (hell it's even on a lot of their "avatars"icon_wink.gif but ffs can't we talk about something else? For example, after years of being light at 6 and 7 we have some potential depth there for next year and he and/or the board is now getting a slagging for not sorting the pack out.

If it's not Agar then it's the "public schoolboy" who isn't a fan (although my son and many of his friends at Hymers - where I think this particular victim of abuse attended - have season passes and have for may years) and Kaff who we're continually being told is ugly which is (a) rude, (b) in the eye of the beholder and (c) completely irrelevant to how she runs a club. To me, if we want debate then we need to stop everything being derailed into personal abuse of the coach, the board and any poster who try to start a topic about something or express an opinion about something that leans to the slightly positive.

Also, much of the good humour has disappeared from here. People on different sides of debates used to have a laugh with each other even when they disgreed -now it's just laughing at each other.

I might be exagerating slightly but the thrust of what I'm saying seems to be true - to me at least.'"


Excellent post and imo this is more of a reason fans [imight[/i be staying away rather than anything to do with the was the moderators run it.

That said as moderators we have to accept that it has gone this way as many fans feel so fed up with certain things at the club namely Agar. We can't ask posters to be positive or negative we just have to moderate what people discuss. We do try to keep thread subjects together though so we don't have too many threads discussing the same thing.

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Quote: Chris28 "Yes, I think you did. Still won't mean the visa gets approved though. You'll just get the refusal quicker!
If its like in other sports they should have agreed preset criteria, such as XXX NRL games, no convictions of certain severity etc.

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Quote: Chris28 "Hope so. Don't know a great deal about his background, but the club appear to have their eye on the ball on this after Croc**r.'"

Until he moved to NZ it was colourful to say the least, but I don't think it included any criminal convictions.

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The club issues a certificate of sponsorship and that must be used within 3 months of issue to support a visa application, so if done today it would expire on 23 September. On that basis there's no reason why the club can't (if the deal is done) do that now. Seymour then applies for the visa, and if everything is OK it would normally be issued from Oz in 3-4 weeks. Last visa application I did from there was done is about that. The only problem is that in their wisdom, UKBA have centralised the South Asia/Australasia visa operation at a hub in Manila, which in my view adds to the delay

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Quote: Standee "I think the RFL and UKBA have done a fair bit of work between them, especially after the various embarassing c0ck ups that have occurred, FC are probably just covering their backsides before comitting to anything.'"



It does make me wonder how the FA and football manage to secure work permits and visa's so easily. I cannot think of any pro football player in recent times been refused a visa. Maybe the RFL should have words with the FA and see how its done.

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Quote: steve_norton "If its like in other sports they should have agreed preset criteria, such as XXX NRL games, no convictions of certain severity etc.'"


They can't agree preset criteria on convictions as they're linked to the individual and have to be considered, as Crocker's was, separately. What they could agree is that anyone who has a fine of more than £X, or has spent any time in clink, for example, shouldn't bother applying. The visa application has to be balanced between the requirement to have the person here for UK economic reasons and the need to stop dodgy people getting here (which is why I wouldn't have refused Crocker - regardless of my loyalties)

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