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| Listening to game it sounded like we didn't have any go forward. Looking at the stats it's worse than I realised. Wigan made 500 metres more than us.
Gareth Ellis was the only one who's stats were even close to being acceptable. Chris Green carried it strongly but his workrate was awful, 4 carries. How long was he on the field? Joe Westerman, 10 carries, 36 metres, I'd make more yards than that!
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Listening to game it sounded like we didn't have any go forward. Looking at the stats it's worse than I realised. Wigan made 500 metres more than us.
Gareth Ellis was the only one who's stats were even close to being acceptable. Chris Green carried it strongly but his workrate was awful, 4 carries. How long was he on the field? Joe Westerman, 10 carries, 36 metres, I'd make more yards than that!'"
Them stats are bordering on criminal from certain individuals
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Listening to game it sounded like we didn't have any go forward. Looking at the stats it's worse than I realised. Wigan made 500 metres more than us.
Gareth Ellis was the only one who's stats were even close to being acceptable. Chris Green carried it strongly but his workrate was awful, 4 carries. How long was he on the field? Joe Westerman, 10 carries, 36 metres, I'd make more yards than that!'"
What was the share of possession ? Sounded like we got very little ball.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "What was the share of possession ? Sounded like we got very little ball.'"
Wigan 57%
Hull 43%
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| We went with a plan, shed loads of forwards, soak everything up and nick it late on. Nearly worked as well.
People moaning about Wigan bombing chances, well i'd prefer to say we forced the errors tbh. Also, we had a try disallowed too, which was flat at worst.
Fact of the matter is that if Houghton hadn't been a complete idiot going on the blind side we'd have got at least a draw.
Great to see the defensive steel back.
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| Quote: *1865* "Great to see the defensive steel back.'"
It has to underpin every performance this season if we're to steer clear of trouble. That's why the Salford defeat was the most disappointing to me - poor defence cost us that game.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Listening to game it sounded like we didn't have any go forward. Looking at the stats it's worse than I realised. Wigan made 500 metres more than us.
Gareth Ellis was the only one who's stats were even close to being acceptable. Chris Green carried it strongly but his workrate was awful, 4 carries. How long was he on the field? Joe Westerman, 10 carries, 36 metres, I'd make more yards than that!'"
I dread to think where we'd be without Ellis over the last couple of years, while he is no doubt getting a massive salary you can't fault his effort playing injured when he could quite easily think 'I'm not going to win a trophy anyway I'll just collect my cash'
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| Quote: Staffs FC "What was the share of possession ? Sounded like we got very little ball.'"
The possession played a big part admittedly. As has already been stated it was 57-43. But the percentage of total yards made was 60-40. That means Wigan made 150 metres more than us that can't be put down to possession. That's not good enough when we've stacked the bench with forwards.
That was a little bit Phil Clarke'esque. But you get my point.
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| For all those forwards we had zero impact down the middle.
The defence did save us, but it was scrambled rather than robust. Wigan were begging on the wings but we failed to capitalise on that and spread the ball wide, even when Charnley was lame and helpless. The plan may have been to pass the ball inside for the pack to take up but the pack wasn't up to it. And the one time we did pass outside instead of inside was our last chance to draw or win a game that should have been won long before then.
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| Quote: *1865* "We went with a plan, shed loads of forwards, soak everything up and nick it late on. Nearly worked as well.
People moaning about Wigan bombing chances, well i'd prefer to say we forced the errors tbh. Also, we had a try disallowed too, which was flat at worst.
Fact of the matter is that if Houghton hadn't been a complete idiot going on the blind side we'd have got at least a draw.
Great to see the defensive steel back.'"
If it wasnt for bowen and the other wigan player messing Sneyds kick we would never have scored till the game was ovet and wigan would probably have scored more and not panicked
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| Time for Jack Logan to be given a chance in the centre, Radford will never drop Yeaman, he must be able to see how poor he is these days.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Time for Jack Logan to be given a chance in the centre, Radford will never drop Yeaman, he must be able to see how poor he is these days.'"
Poor strike rate these days. Since the start of 2013 I make it 18 tries in 57 games, just 14 tries in the Super League.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Time for Jack Logan to be given a chance in the centre, Radford will never drop Yeaman, he must be able to see how poor he is these days.'"
He is not ready yet for regular first team football but no harm in playing him in some matches.
Yeaman is pants
Just don't get Radford putting Ben Crooks in the untenable position he did.Young players will always make mistakes like Lancaster did last night but to let Yeaman get away with his recent performances is criminal.
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| Logan, May no be quite ready, he offers far more than Yeaman, saw that against leeds last year.
What's happened to Cunningham, can't have Houghton doing 80, he gets tired with all the work he does and makes mistakes like last night.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Logan, May no be quite ready, he offers far more than Yeaman, saw that against leeds last year.
What's happened to Cunningham, can't have Houghton doing 80, he gets tired with all the work he does and makes mistakes like last night.'"
Agree with you but he needs to play selected games so he doesn't suffer like Ben Crooks did under Radford
Don't know about Cunningham but I would like to persevere with Rankin Off the bench to cover Houghton
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