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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "Difficult call on Crooks. To often though players in Hull, both FC and KR, have had a break through season and then drifted into mediocrity. Is it something to do with mental attitude, thinking they are something better than they really are. Do we as fans big these players up to much in the gold fish bowl that is Hull RL. They then coast for two or three seasons living with a celebrity status, at which point the game has passed them by and they are average pro or even semi-pro players.'"
I can see what you're saying with this. I would also like to say that it is probably also to do with how coaches handle these players after that breakthrough season. Do they maybe put too much pressure on them? "You had a great first season so I expect you to be even better this season."
It's far too early for people to be writing off Crooks though. Players have dips in form and can bounce back. Maybe he was more suited to Gentle's tactics and training methods and hasn't adapted as yet to Radders methods? |
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "prove that I do? & I will prove that I don't?'"
You seem to be in a minority of one who thinks you don't talk rubbish. |
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| Quote: Rock God X "You seem to be in a minority of one who thinks you don't talk rubbish.'"
Finding it difficult to understand why anyone would feel the need to comment on someones statements that are full of such obvious bull, guess I've just done the self same thing though.... |
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| Quote: Doc Brown "I can see what you're saying with this. I would also like to say that it is probably also to do with how coaches handle these players after that breakthrough season. Do they maybe put too much pressure on them? "You had a great first season so I expect you to be even better this season."
It's far too early for people to be writing off Crooks though. Players have dips in form and can bounce back. Maybe he was more suited to Gentle's tactics and training methods and hasn't adapted as yet to Radders methods?'"
Maybe be a coaching issue, but it does seem a particular problem in Hull and with a number of different coaches at both FC and KR. |
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "Maybe be a coaching issue, but it does seem a particular problem in Hull and with a number of different coaches at both FC and KR.'"
I wonder if that's maybe to do with the current status of the two clubs. It's perhaps easier for a successful team like say Wigan to bring youngsters in and nurture them over time whereas there's more pressure at FC and KR that they be an instant and consistent success once they make the breakthrough. |
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| Quote: Doc Brown "I wonder if that's maybe to do with the current status of the two clubs. It's perhaps easier for a successful team like say Wigan to bring youngsters in and nurture them over time whereas there's more pressure at FC and KR that they be an instant and consistent success once they make the breakthrough.'"
Agree that this could be an issue. |
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "Difficult call on Crooks. To often though players in Hull, both FC and KR, have had a break through season and then drifted into mediocrity. Is it something to do with mental attitude, thinking they are something better than they really are. Do we as fans big these players up to much in the gold fish bowl that is Hull RL. They then coast for two or three seasons living with a celebrity status, at which point the game has passed them by and they are average pro or even semi-pro players.'"
I personally don't ever think Crooks was that good. He just had a very lucky first season where everything him and Lineham touched turned to gold. You could see him absolutely ting himself at Wembley and somebody should of helped him but they never did and now I think he even doubts himself so he's lost that edge that was in effect his good luck and is now just bang average. |
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "The reason why hadley never got used..he was meant to be out on when we was comfortable in the game to gain minutes'"
Hasn't he been 'gaining minutes' at Doncaster? Hadley hasn't been injured lately has he? IF what you're saying is true Radford should have had faith in Dean & played him, whats the point in them going to Donny if they aren't going to get their chance here when it arises. |
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| Quote: ccs "There's only 1 Sean Long....
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He was in talks with us for a role like brett hodgson is doing with shaul..but with our young halfs..but with his life the way it was AP didn't want anymore dilemas at the club..& hasn't the things I've posted in the past happened? Like 2 lads been sacked or radders after an outside back & prop when fans thought recruitment was over? Or even miller starting Fri? Or am I making it all up?
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "He was in talks with us for a role like brett hodgson is doing with shaul..but with our young halfs..but with his life the way it was AP didn't want anymore dilemas at the club..& hasn't the things I've posted in the past happened? Like 2 lads been sacked or radders after an outside back & prop when fans thought recruitment was over? Or even miller starting Fri? Or am I making it all up?'"
you should be preparing your excuses for tomorrow night Lee. |
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| Quote: Standee "you should be preparing your excuses for tomorrow night Lee.'"
What stand you going in my mate? |
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "What stand you going in my mate?'"
aww bless, same old shoite. You don't have to go to games to be a supporter. |
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| Quote: Standee "aww bless, same old shoite. You don't have to go to games to be a supporter.'"
What you on my case for all off a sudden? |
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