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28490_1361478234.jpg JOHNNY WHITELEY - A TRUE RUGBY LEAGUE LEGEND:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_28490.jpg |
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "Looking at his stats - he is top of the list of Try Assists in the League (more than Dobson, Lomax, Myler, Pryce etc) - he has also made more tackles than any of those players. Decent number of clean breaks (beaten by Lomax, Myler and Kearney - but 2 of them are chiming in from full back with more room to manoevre)
Why not look at what he is actually doing in the pitch - he is actually perfoming well and is far from the being the reason why we are struggling at the moment'"
Well said. It seems to be Rich's role in life to be the scapegoat for lots of posters on here. He doesn't let us down and as shown above, he's better than many in try assists and clean breaks. We would all wish for a world beater, but we haven't got one and until we do Rich will do for me.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "Looking at his stats - he is top of the list of Try Assists in the League (more than Dobson, Lomax, Myler, Pryce etc) - he has also made more tackles than any of those players. Decent number of clean breaks (beaten by Lomax, Myler and Kearney - but 2 of them are chiming in from full back with more room to manoevre)
Why not look at what he is actually doing in the pitch - he is actually perfoming well and is far from the being the reason why we are struggling at the moment'"
I dont disagree he's making a very valuable contribution so far, but he's not the future, an expensive comfort blanket.
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| Quote: Standee "I dont disagree he's making a very valuable contribution so far, but he's not the future, an expensive comfort blanket.'"
No, he isnt the future, neither are Lynch, O'Meley, Heremaia, Tickle etc etc - but they dont get the same targetting that Rich gets. To have our 'back up' half performing as the stats suggest is brilliant, time for the starting 13 to up their games too (Lineham, Briscoe, apart)
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| Quote: Standee "I dont disagree he's making a very valuable contribution so far, but he's not the future, an expensive comfort blanket.'"
i wouldnt say expensive much anymore.. i reckon horneys on crumbs now
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| I know he isnt the solution for next year - but how is the half back we sent to Australia doing? Is he the one that has been on the bench for the U19's this year?
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "I know he isnt the solution for next year - but how is the half back we sent to Australia doing? Is he the one that has been on the bench for the U19's this year?'"
No, he's still under 16's.
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6505_1460484023.jpg [i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: Standee "I dont disagree he's making a very valuable contribution so far, but he's not the future, an expensive comfort blanket.'"
A squad number of 16 strongly indicates that nobody at the club sees him as 'the future' either. And exactly how expensive is he? Because as far as I can tell his salary hasn't been made public.
Face it - for some reason you have an issue with Horne that prevents you from assessing his worth to the squad dispassionately.
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| Quote: Kosh "A squad number of 16 strongly indicates that nobody at the club sees him as 'the future' either. And exactly how expensive is he? Because as far as I can tell his salary hasn't been made public.
Face it - for some reason you have an issue with Horne that prevents you from assessing his worth to the squad dispassionately.'"
Too many people on here read into posts things which aren't there.
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| Quote: Standee "I dont disagree he's making a very valuable contribution so far, but he's not the future, an expensive comfort blanket.'"
You often ask posters to respond to the post and not the poster. It's inconsistent that you then pretty much do the same thing you refer to and mainly comment on players and not their play.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "You often ask posters to respond to the post and not the poster. It's inconsistent that you then pretty much do the same thing you refer to and mainly comment on players and not their play.'"
You contradict yourself, the quoted post makes specific comment about his play
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54781_1349275167.jpg Standee wrote: "because watching hull fc isn't worth the 200+ mile round trip ."
I rest my case:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54781.jpg |
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| Quote: Standee "You contradict yourself, the quoted post makes specific comment about his play'"
ok if were discussing his "play" and not the usual site bashing you give him
How did YOU think he did in the last two games ..............
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| Quote: Standee "You contradict yourself, the quoted post makes specific comment about his play'"
I said mainly, not exclusively. I suspect the only reason you commented on his form was because you were specifically challenged about it in the same way as I am now doing. In the main you simply pick him out as not good enough, regardless of how he is playing or how it compares to those around him, as you hold an opinion on him which you will not veer from. You used to do similar with Whiting.
It’s perfectly normal to defend an opinion, and even to not have it swayed too easily, but IMO once you let the opinion become the driving force and not the evidence it becomes worthless.
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54781_1349275167.jpg Standee wrote: "because watching hull fc isn't worth the 200+ mile round trip ."
I rest my case:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54781.jpg |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I said mainly, not exclusively. I suspect the only reason you commented on his form was because you were specifically challenged about it in the same way as I am now doing. In the main you simply pick him out as not good enough, regardless of how he is playing or how it compares to those around him, as you hold an opinion on him which you will not veer from. You used to do similar with Whiting.
It’s perfectly normal to defend an opinion, and even to not have it swayed too easily, but IMO once you let the opinion become the driving force and not the evidence it becomes worthless.'"
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| Quote: voodooroo "ok if were discussing his "play" and not the usual site bashing you give him
How did YOU think he did in the last two games ..............'"
On a couple of occasions in both games he made a break that a younger Richard Horne would have made more of, but he's been far from our worst player, his constant "drop off inside" ball is as boring as it is predictable. He does far too much tackling (as does Houghton).
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Standee "On a couple of occasions in both games he made a break that a younger Richard Horne would have made more of, but he's been far from our worst player, his constant "drop off inside" ball is as boring as it is predictable. He does far too much tackling (as does Houghton).'"
Every club/team does the "drop off".
What else would you want them to do?
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