That's the thing, don't mind losing, there has been a few games this year that I enjoyed despite us getting beat (Leeds H, Warrington H and Salford A, spring to mind)

I just want to see a team that is competitive, fit and motivated, this will be determined by the success of preseason.
That should be a given, if Cartwright is given the necessary support and resources.
As for the youngsters, I hope they receive more specialist strength training & continue to improve.

Is it just me or is this post too soon ?
How long will it take for fans to get over 2024 before they even begin to think of
2025 ?
I’ve been a Cleveland Browns fan since 1989 and we barely even think about ‘next season’.
The Draft is our Super Bowl !
Well it was until we hired Deshawn Watson and gave 3 first round draft picks away for him.
Only in Cleveland - that may soon become
Only in Hull

Judging my the amount of people posting it's just you.

sorting fitness, attitude and defence are the basics which should be achievable. The club also need to get ruthless with any who don't toe the line. It's the only way we'll improve relatively quickly. How can a group of player who outscored salford away in terms of tries scored then roll over at home against them?

I've heard some stories about a drinking culture at the club this season with some of the new recruits being major protagonists - they've pretty much gone now so hopefully less of an issue. But we need a culture where players want to be the best they can and we haven't had that for some time.

Attitude and culture go a long way in this game where margins are slim between good and bad. I don't expect` us to be great but if we don't see major improvements in the basics we'll slip into the abyss as fans have had enough

Not going to make any position targets because right now I can only see me setting myself up for disappointment.

For me, I want to see us getting our fitness and conditioning sorted. We have not looked right since game one this season and it's just gotten worse for the most part. In Cartwright we seem to have gotten a coach that really wants to put emphasis on this area and it sounds like we are getting a backroom team in place that will aid him. Should also get the injury list down too.

I want to see an improvement in attitude/culture/whatever you want to call it. It won't matter how fit or conditioned the team is if they don't have the right mentality. You can tell most games within the first minute or so if Hull have some fight in them and the answer is that they don't. Let's get competing again and make sure our opponents know they're in for a game whenever they play against us. Whilst I am not exactly excited about our signings for next year, I do believe that they will bring a sense of professionalism to the club that has been lacking for some time and that should translate to better performances on the pitch. I just want to know that win or lose, we gave it our all every game instead of folding like a pack of cards in most games.

Finally, keep giving the youngsters opportunities but balancing that out better than this year where they have been flogged to death. I am incredibly proud of the likes of Moy, Martin, Charles etc this year but they need taking out of the firing line and protecting to aid their development.

Improving to 8th-10th but I'm going to say this for about the 10th year in a row...winning games in August and September.

Had we started this season badly but then won a game or two the last few weeks we'd still be down but there would be a feeling things are getting better. Instead every year without fail we fall apart over the summer.

The next thing is the squad management, I'd hope we've seen the end of paying off players early and are instead evolving the squad at the end of contracts like sensible clubs do.

The other thing that can cheer us up is a cup run, even a day out at a Semi would feel like the promised land right now.

7TH/8TH for me, above Wakefield, Castleford, Huddersfield and maybe Salford or Leeds, more consistency and fitness.

For me, as well as those views previously posted, I want a captain who's not afraid to kick a'ses when its needed. Watching this group standing behind the posts, there doesn't appear to be anyone giving them a hard time. Lets hope JC appoints the right leader.

Can't wait for Mr Positive's contribution.

competitive....no more blow out scores

commitment...players not giving up once they go a couple of scores down

The new coach and back-room staff have to be the biggest appointments. The alarming thing this year is even if we were 20% better than we have been that only equates to 1.2 extra points on the table

Next year we go with a better coach, better backroom and for me an improved squad with better characters.

I think we'll improve from god-awful to average; which is quite a leap. As improved as the squad will be, it won't see us leap frog many. I'd say 7th would represent a great season, but 8th/9th a realistic hope.

Snowflake woke man

I'll echo what most people have said.
Think it's disrespectful to Wakefield Hudds and Cas that we'll finish above them.
Wakefield have recruited well so far and like us Huddersfield are an unknown and will be thinking like most fans on here. We're bottom for a reason and it will take a lot of work and effort before we can say who'll we'll finish above. There's no devine right.
For me the first realistic target has to be the retention of pass holders and sponsors after this dross .

I'm not even sure you understand what that means.

Your the one crying about it.

Someone can't handle the truth.