I wouldn't understand how we could lose this one - no
It's a top drawer must win
We win the Big matches
We learnt last years lessons

No im afraid I wouldn't really want to
Understand how we would have lost this one

Who we've beaten 3 times so far this season. We have ambition to be Grand Finalists according to those at our club, so then we should be winning games like this. This is why we have built a squad at max salary cap to compete on all fronts. I expect us to win.

Staggering arrogance IMO. What a sense of entitlement.

In life you seldom get what you deserve....
You normally get what you expect

"Personally not bothered after the cup success " -

All I can say is that it's a good job we have an ambitious Chairman

Arrogance or confidence. They're not the same thing.

Talanoa out for a couple of games.

Ellis charged....



Michaels charged....



Burrow also charged, but didn't head butt connor very hard....

Ellis getting charged is pretty annoying. The only positive I can think of is that he will get a week off and a rest

I didn't think the Michaels incident was that bad. From what I recall, Walker ran into him but I've only seen it once so could be wrong

I noticed Burrow got the same charge as Ellis. For head butting. I thought that was strange.

This is how the rfl described Farrell's tackle on ellis in the 76th minutes of the cc final (no charge)...



Spot the difference - the ellis tackle against leeds is on our tv highlights.

Just proves yet again how flawed the RFL Disciplinary is. Ellis' charge is a joke let alone Grade B, Michaels fair enough though grade B harsh so no doubt he will get a 2 game ban as he has EGP. Rob Burrow clear and blatent headbutt and gets grade B?

Some of the stuff you see week in week out that is far worse and doesn't even get seen by the clueless idiots running the game. Seems now Hull are challenging we are getting pretty rough and unjust punishment via Red Hall, you can bet had Ellis been S O'L he'd have got a caution. Take the McIllorum punch to the head of Ellis in the opening set of the CC Final not even a sniff of disciplinary. Yet Ellis stays on his feet same as the Farrell incident that has been highlighted so what it so much different between the two incidents to get such differing outcomes?

As for Friday if we can put out a fairly strong 17 then I think we should be able to take the win at home and would be disappointed if we didn't.

That bit about you getting rough and unfair punishment because you're challenging is going OTT.

The problem with the disciplinary is that they focus too much on injury. Granted Ward came back on but he was forced from the pitch for a while. Ellis played on at Wembley. If Connor suffer a broken cheekbone for example probably would've been longer. I'm not agreeing with their way btw as I don't think that's the way to do it as the Ellis Wembley one shows players can just get lucky in avoiding injury.

.... seemed to remember Ellis was forced from the pitch against leeds as well, for about 10 minutes, with no replacement.

Ward came back on though. So a yellow card whilst many who viewed it seemed harsh should be enough punishment. What good is it to if burrow gets a game ban when he shouldn't have been on the pitch at the end of our game last Friday?