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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Danny Wilson is in charge of COHA.
Never liked the idea from the start, hopefully this kind of thing will send alarm bells ringing and Pearson will use some of the wemb money to go back to our own academy.
Was told there isn't enough talent for two academies, well there certainly isn't now with8 top young players going to Cas, all of these players will be Hull or Rovers fans, but the academy has no identity.'"
Agree about the Wembley money needing to be reinvested. Periods of success like we seem to be in now need to have a legacy to them. If we can sustain a top 4 place and very good cup runs for the next few years, we need to be looking back at this period as one that helped to set the club up for long term successes, including building an appeal for young players in the city to be Hull FC players of the future. Having a shared academy absolutely opposes this idea.
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| Quote Cardiff_05="Cardiff_05"Agree about the Wembley money needing to be reinvested. Periods of success like we seem to be in now need to have a legacy to them. If we can sustain a top 4 place and very good cup runs for the next few years, we need to be looking back at this period as one that helped to set the club up for long term successes, including building an appeal for young players in the city to be Hull FC players of the future. Having a shared academy absolutely opposes this idea.'"
Short term we are ok, we have some great young players in the reserves and 19's.
Are the current 16's the ones that aren't ring fenced?
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Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Short term we are ok, we have some great young players in the reserves and 19's.
Are the current 16's the ones that aren't ring fenced?'"
According to this www.rugby-league.com/article/326 ... nity_board Pearson said that "we've ring fenced our players for the next four years" - not sure what age-range that covered though.
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Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Short term we are ok, we have some great young players in the reserves and 19's.
Are the current 16's the ones that aren't ring fenced?'"
According to this www.rugby-league.com/article/326 ... nity_board Pearson said that "we've ring fenced our players for the next four years" - not sure what age-range that covered though.
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| Quote R.B.A="R.B.A"From what I'm told, all 8 of these lads were offered COHA scholarships. In total COHA offered 16 lads scholarships. From this figure 8 decided to join Cas, 1 turned them down which leaves them currently with 7 players.'"
I can't say I'm surprised. Who wants to play for a joint academy if you support one of the clubs?
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| Just to put the record straight I wasn't referring to Danny Wilson who is a good and conscientious bloke with whom I have no problems at all he's just doing his job but for whatever reasons most folks I speak to seem to have serious concerns about the coach. Fact is that so many kids [upreferring[/u to go to Castleford is a massive issue for me!
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| Putting a coach in charge who had previously criticised Hull FC on social media was a dumb move.
AP is a sharp operator. I'd like to hear his view on his decision to run a merged academy now.
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| Quote Irregular Hoops="Irregular Hoops"Putting a coach in charge who had previously criticised Hull FC on social media was a dumb move.
AP is a sharp operator. I'd like to hear his view on his decision to run a merged academy now.'"
Ah, good ol' JN eh?
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| Quote Irregular Hoops="Irregular Hoops"
AP is a sharp operator. I'd like to hear his view on his decision to run a merged academy now.'"
Tbf, it was always an unpopular idea on this board and I doubt he's surprised to see people who were mostly against the concept being critical of the delivery.
A while back there was a thread looking at negative evidence from team performances. Then results picked up, which would have attracted plenty of attention back when HTW was a future hall of famer. Now it is merely framed as a distraction from these apparent failures in recruitment.
Perception is an important and real consideration, of course. And stuff like this won't help.
On the other hand, the reserves/23s was widely popular, but perception by itself won't protect a flawed concept very long (usually). I'd be more interested in hearing what Pearson (or indeed Peacock) has to say on that (surely bigger?) bit of news.
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| Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"Just to put the record straight I wasn't referring to Danny Wilson who is a good and conscientious bloke with whom I have no problems at all he's just doing his job but for whatever reasons most folks I speak to seem to have serious concerns about the coach. Fact is that so many kids [upreferring[/u to go to Castleford is a massive issue for me!'"
especially if they are backs/halfbacks
For some reason we really struggle to bring young backs through our system yet HKR seem to be the opposite
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| The COHA was a completely terrible idea from the start.
Scrap it, now!
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| Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"
I have never been a fan of this whole idea, but accepted Adams reasons for doing it. But I think our owner was a bit too trusting of our partners in this ...'"
This is how I feel. I very much appreciate a lot of what Pearson has done for the club but this has to be one he got wrong. The key word is trust, something that is quite impossible when Hudgell is involved and frankly I'm surprised at Pearson's lapse in judgement there.
Its going to be tough to untangle this mess as the RL was in on it. The other clubs must be rolling over laughing at this mess and I certainly haven't seen any other merged academies - nor do I expect any soon either.
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| The joint academy was a crazy idea from the off, I wouldn't even say good idea in theory. What's even worse is having anyone involved that has been so anti Hull FC and publicly.
Unless the RFL increase teams in SL next season Rovers unlikely to come back up.
The experiment for want of a better word just hasn't worked and should be scrapped.
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