I think generally speaking this year we have been very realistic about our chances. I don't recall anyone expecting us to finish any higher than 6th. But we expected progress and I see very little of that. Same old mistakes. Same old unprofessional performances like last night. (Forget how good Wigan are, we made it incredibly easy for them). Littered with the odd spark of something potentially good. Sadly the contrast is often there within the space of a match. Leeds at home 12 - 0 at half time and then boom. All destroyed within 5 minutes of the break.

The rivalry with Rovers would be incidental if we eradicated the extremes of our performances. Things I will add that AP stated would never happen again under his watch. 4 years on........

No.

It's so very easy to suggest Pearson has ruined the club and should go. Sensible alternatives, such as the small matter of identifying a wealthy benefactor waiting to take on a club losing money are a bit trickier. Let's say Pearson needs to break even and to do so cut the wage bill by 30%. Should he be transparent with fans about this and realistic ambitions of top 8 max? Or "spin"? I suspect he's in a no-win situation here.

A few weeks ago I was out with some mates and was talking about Hull, I said I am going to Hull more out of loyalty then enjoyment and unfortunately I still stick my that. After the Wakefield away game I decided I wouldn't go out of my way to watch Hull, by mistake I booked tickets to a comedy night for last night, I rightly decided to go to that over Hull despite having a pass ( I offered my pass for free to a few people, all turned it down) and unless things change and we start performing consistently I can't see me getting a pass next year.

Last night looked a nothing game to Hull, they had qualified fur the 8s and that was enough, seriously lacking intensity compared to Wigan, I fear this will be the pattern for the rest of the season.

My thoughts exactly! I hate the KC .
It is too nice , too sanitised.
Give me a stadium with terraces any day . I wish the Boulevard could have been modernised into a Haliwell Jones style ground .
All seater Stadiums create no atmosphere for RL .

I always argue Hull are the most loyal fans in RL. Every GF, every CCF, every international, every tour I have been on there are probably more Hull fans there than any other apart from the respective finalists. Unfortunately you have more than your share of muppets.

having read your forum on numerous occasions i would say you are probably the most fickle!

Don't think there was one called that wasn't forward, I sit pretty much on half way and they're easy to spot.

Stop the thread right here. Absolutely bang on the money.

Was just going to say the same. You're not the worst fans in rugby league, you show up in numbers and are ever-present, but gosh this forum is bipolar. One win and you're sky high, all the Radford haters were wrong, one loss and it's like the whole club is crumbling.

I didn't buy a pass this season, and I've already made up my mind I won't next.

I nearly went to last nights game and decided at last minute to watch it on SKY, I'm glad I did.

The stadium argument is futile, there is going to be no Haliwell Jones - we don't have the money, and there is no viable alternative to the KC. Someone mentioned staying at the Boulevard and upgrading that, but that wasn't an option either, we didn't have the money then either.

And in response to fickle fans/leaving early - how else can fans show their disappointment? They can't. Not showing up in one way, and leaving early after a tonking is another.
Fans rarely leave early after close well fought out defeat, but leaving early after a pounding and a very poor performance is perfectly acceptable to me.
Staying till the last minute last night then applauding is basically accepting mediocrity IMO? Last night wasn't even mediocre it was utter garbage.

Fans do have a right to protest, and the players, coaches and owner should be shown that what they have served up is rubbish, we do that with our legs in not going or standing up and leaving early.

And through all of this the biggest and most glaringly obvious hole in all of it is that AP hasn't installed a proven and experienced coach. He says he's tried everything - he hasn't.

Appreciate they don't come cheap, but maybe just spending a little less on the cap and using the difference to pay for a top coach, money talks and I'm sure one could have been found if the money was there. And a top coach couldn't but be motivated by the facilities and youth structure that had been put in place.

I said last night, was the result due to the players not being good enough or because they are not coached to reach their full potential? I believe the sum of all the parts should be greater than it is, which would suggest its coaching.

So, if you want to stay till the end an applaud that last night, then fair play to you, but it seems the majority are hacked off and making their voices felt in one of the few ways they can, with their feet.

That's not fickle, it's called being ed off.

I think we have some of the best fans in the game. Throw in some muppetts which every team have. IMO anybody who pays has the right to go when they want. I am always in the half glass full group where some on here are the half glass empty and that causes a lot of the arguments. Hopefully next year we can regroup and get up the table. On the other hand lol