While I still think we'll get an absolute hammering...I do think there's signs the wheels are coming off for Wigan they are now more concerned with playing dirty than playing the game, and they've lost a lot of star players over the last few years (Tomkins, Green etc)

Be even funnier if it wasn't true

We should learn some characteristics from Wigan though , I'd love to see a dominant bullying Hull forward pack who keeps the foot on the neck of the opposition when where on top .

Achilles, hamstring...

If they score early our heads will drop and they could easily put fifty on us.

With Huddersfield, Rovers and Salford all at home next weekend there is a very real chance that we''ll be bottom after five rounds. Not sure we've ever been there even for just a week - possibly in 1999. We had a horror start in 2011 with one win in the first six but Crusaders kept us off the bottom.

Won't be losing any sleep personally. Expect the worst, hope for the best, enjoy a bit of singing from 7.45-8pm. Maybe a pie. If we win the toss we must elect to play towards the home end in the first half. At least then I get to see Paea's @rss and Mini's thighs. I demand some return on my Friday night investment of time and cash.

So will you go into any game this season with confidence we can beat anybody? I wont. Depends which FC team decides to turn up, what theyve had for breakfast etc.

Bunch of arrogant lazy f00kers imo. They seem to think they dont have to work hard for a win and that attitude stems from the top. The attitude seems to be 'Were FC and we just have to turn up and the likes of Wakey, Salford, widnes etc will just bow down at our feet.' Weve been like it for years and ive had enough of them and im not the only one. I tried to get back on the horse after some recent really awful years but the same old arrogance and frailties remain. The club is a joke from the top to the bottom.

Pearson, Radford et all can all feck off for me. Cant stand any of em

Shows how Crusaders have progressed whilst with a big change in personnel to strengthen the team , we've gone backwards.

We should win this one comfortably enough.

We have a day more than Wigan to recover.

Wigan are putting too much on youth with Williams at 6 with Smith ( who is over-rated).They have got rid of quality but not replaced it with quality and Wane is just a 80s throwback of a coach.

The Germans started off ok!