If he's pointing out, as you said, that he clearly can't be d to play for Hull then he is criticising his performance, isn't he?

No.

Firstly he wasnt pointing anything out he was giving a bull opinion.

Secondly performance isn't always linked to commitment. It is possible to have a poor game whilst giving 100% commitment.

If someone looks like they can't be d to play - they can't be performing well, can they?

The perception that both Manu and Briscoe are under performing, or not interested is, in my opinion, directly linked to our opposition sussing that if they shut Manu down they shut our left side attack down. In consequence Manu is being marked out of the game, and Briscoe has no service.
The few times he has received good, quick supply, he has made good yards and finished his trys well.
That said, he should not be immune from critcism, and has been at fault, defensively on a couple of occassions

But he doesnt look like he can't be d to play. He wasn't having a great game so this moron decides to start questioning his commitment and telling him to f*** off to Australia rather than just talking about his actual performance.

It's not a fact at all it's your opinion.

Spot on for me - teams have had 3 or 4 tacklers on him because they know what he can do. If he goes, I hope we will use the same tactic

The hand off/throw that Manu put on sending Darrell Goulding ar$e-over-t1t isn't something a player going through the motions would do either.

I think Agar leaving has hit Briscoe hard as well. Coming in from Fev that must be all he's known as a coach at this level and he is out of his comfort zone IMHO with Gentle, perhaps not getting as much direct support as he used to?

Our experienced players were having to play long minutes and Manu in particular was our only "go to" player on the field so of course it's going to be easy for Wigan to shut him down. Our 17 against that Wigan 17 simply weren't good enough , they were outclassed but I didn't see any player shirking. Far from it , I thought they showed plenty of spirit. Everyone knew it was a mismatch and the outcome was just about as expected. The most disappointing aspect for me was that we let Wigan score the two early tries before getting into the game when I thought our adrenalin may help us to stay with them early. Wigan's attack though was just too good.

didnt everyone say the same about danny tickle when it was " a done deal" he was going warrngton and all the " in the know people on here had it on good authority he had signed"

Don't get them started again

Manu went OK yesterday I thought, and in the first half when we had 3 back to back sets on their line we were playing 1 out rugby, almost looking for the chance to go wide to Willie, but it never came, surprised me really since he's usually over used.

And for me, Briscoe was our best player yesterday, people just decide he's leaving and nothing he does will change that.

i think the problem with manu yesterday was that the normally quick service to him from the halves was missing, making it easier for the wigan defence to shut him down

I have it on very good authority that Manu was seen celebrating Richards' opening try and was in fact wearing a Saints shirt under his Hull top. Oh and he failed to tear Wigan apart completely on his own like he should be doing. Tear his contract up now.

all were average yesterday and thats all there is to it, at no point didi we ever need the 2 weeks off we now have than now!!
regroup, have a rest for the big minute players but very timely.