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| Quote black and Whiteley="black and Whiteley"not sure, is it possible to ever answer these sort of questions correctly.
Plus lets not forget both of those clubs have had backing in terms of players they sign and salarys they pay. Not sure how they are doing it but it is clear to everyone they are being a little bit less tighter when it comes to the purse strings. This will improve the perception people have of the coach as they have a better product on the field, having quality out there with ball in hand making better decisions, dropping less ball and giving away less penalties.'"
Michael Maguire inherited, in his first season, the same squad that Brian Noble had, plus Paul Deacon!
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| Quote wiganers="wiganers"Michael Maguire inherited, in his first season, the same squad that Brian Noble had, plus Paul Deacon!'"
I can't really claim that my opinion is valid as I did not watch Wigan week in week out for the last few years but from an opposition fan It seemed to me like Noble did some great work with your club and improved them year on year, I think if he had stayed on he would have lead them to a trophy anyway.
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| Quote black and Whiteley="black and Whiteley"Is it possible to be undecided about how you feel about the head coach.
We all know where we feel he is going wrong.
His Interchanges are all wrong and is not getting the best out of Moa, Houghton and Fitz.
He has continually blamed the fact it was not his team even though other coaches have stepped into clubs and made an immediate impact.
His percentage of wins is nowhere near good enough for a club of our size
On the flip side..........
I am happy with the level of discipline he is setting in the squad and the example he is setting to the youngster and also Westerman who came with a reputation. This is the reason I would hold no fears over signing a player like Gleeson who is potentially being sacked over drinking as he would know he is coming to a club who dont take prisoners.
I am also happy with the players who he seems able to bring to the club. O'Meely is proving to be one of the best props to wear the black and whites, Fitz is a true leader, Moa is proving to be a handful week in week out, Briscoe and Sharp look like scoring tries for fun.
Although it was easy to get swept up in all the anti agar europria of last week it was also endearing to see the players and board back him. I am happy knowing there are no issues in the camp at present and also knowing the team and staff feel they can turn this around.
Therefore I am willing to give them a break I feel everyone else should too.
I don't want to come across as a spin doctor, I have watched Hull for over 20 years and appreciate that is dog years compared to some, all I am saying is If the players are behind a coach there is something right, In any workplace if the staff are happy normally you get good results, if you don't you tend to replace the staff!!!!'"
Wakefield game has made my mind up. He has to go now for sure. Something has to give.
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| I think someone elso on another thread had it bang on when they said the Wakey game was a turning point. Agar has been losing fans for months but I reckon he is now losing fans like myself who could see the good work he was doing and prepared tog give him longer. This would explain the increased frustration showed by fans at the end of the game.
Hull have to move him out now in order to turn things around but they MUST get the right man this time.
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| Quote black and Whiteley="black and Whiteley"Wakefield game has made my mind up. He has to go now for sure. Something has to give.'"
I'm of the same opinion; It's Gloria Gaynor time for me.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Ask yourselves whether wigan or wire would be as good if agar were their current coach and you'll have your answer'"
On the reverse of that,would we be top of the league if we had either of their coaches?
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| Quote barton baird="barton baird"On the reverse of that,would we be top of the league if we had either of their coaches?'"
Maybe not, but i do feel, we would be more consistent in our performances,more structured in our attack,
but ultimately........ we would be closing the gap, on the top sides.
Whoever,the next appointment must be experienced,proven and preferrably from the NRL.
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| Simple fact is, at the moment it pointless Agar going, because the clowns who employed him will find another one.
Untill the Board and the ownership of the club change we might as well stay as we are.
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| Quote barton baird="barton baird"On the reverse of that,would we be top of the league if we had either of their coaches?'"
I dnot think we would be top but I reckon we would be closer to there than the bottom.
It is clear there is something not right in the camp and there are only so many variables to change, we have already overhaulled the players, we cannot do to much about the board but to be honest I dont have to many grumbles about the way the club is run except for the appointment of a quality coaching set up.
They have to look at this and move to the only variable left to change - AGAR
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| Quote kingston droolers="kingston droolers"Simple fact is, at the moment it pointless Agar going, because the clowns who employed him will find another one.
Untill the Board and the ownership of the club change we might as well stay as we are.'"
I agree. Change in ownership was what really started to change the Wigan club. The right owners then start to bring in the right coaching staff and players
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| Quote barton baird="barton baird"On the reverse of that,would we be top of the league if we had either of their coaches?'"
No, but we wouldn't be bottom either
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| Quote black and Whiteley="black and Whiteley"They have to look at this and move to the only variable left to change - AGAR'"
Not the board/owners who have ecouraged the slide of the club?
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