What was the attendance when gb played nz there a few years ago?

I'd love to know where people think the Allams would secure the finance from, the investment to buy the ground, build a hotel etc. and increase capacity would top £80m, can you see any sane business person securing that against their own personal wealth in the current climate?

Remember, the Rank development in Hull is suffering from potential lack of interest from developers/financiers, and that is a brown field site with outline planning permission in place, no poilitical strings and wide public support.

Correct. The Allams would not be so stupid as to throw more of their own money into it. They would doubtless fund it by borrowings secured against the ground, further increasing the football club's debts.

If you look a man city who bought the stadium from the council. It cost them something like 180-200mil and took them approx's 2 years to sort out. This all happened with no opposition as it was not a community stadium but built for the Commonwealth Games with City taking over after the games had finished. I know the kc is nowhere near as big but silly money would need to change hands and then you would have all the building to do on top of that.

tut tut, you are just not buying into the City Dream!
This is simple, they have more money than Sheikh Mansoor.

Also, a little birdy tells me they have just bid £24m for Mido

Can't they buy us instead? They might invest in a better coaching set-up then!

One step at a time.

And also are the Tigers doing to draw 40,000 - I think not - even in the Premiership think Blackburn,Bolton, Fulham, should I go on. Liverpool struggled at their last home game to fill Anfield. Pie in the sky me thinks but I dont care as long as we remain there or some-one pays for a new Stadium for us.

Please you are Kidding - Mido !!!!

What gave it away? The 24m part?

Man City didn't actually buy the stadium, it was always intended that they would use it after the games, in fact, had they not been a major partner right from the first bid then Manchester would maybe not have secured the games, the delays for City using CMS was the removal of the running track and the addition of the extra rows of seats, it was planned from day one that this would be the case. Interestingly, the CMS is one of a few stadiums in Europe that has official police holding cells built into the fabric of the building.

To "buy" the KC the Allams (or anyone else) would have to pay the market rate, not just of the fabric of the stadium but the surrounding land and access routes, so not only would HCC have to sell the KC, they would also possibly have to sell part of West Park, then what would happen during the fair, would the Allams let the fair "people" use the area, the investment needed to buy the KC and to expand to 40,000 would be in the region of £60-£70m after all associated costs are taken into account, or to put it another way, the Allams would need to invest 3/4 of their personal wealth, said personal wealth isn't in bundles of £50's in a vault somewhere, it's on a ledger somewhere.

They simply cannot afford it!! Simples... It's just a pipe dream for them!!!

no one likes to hear their name in the press more than they do!!

And Hudge...

I don't really agree with people that say City wouldn't be able to get bigger crowds because they never sell out the current ground. I'd go as far as saying it's rubbish.

Stadiums don't usually completely sell out because there is either loads of seats dotted about on their own (no-one wants just one seat), small groups of few seats (so people can't go in groups) or there are just really crap seats left that no-one would fork out money for.

If you bang on another 10k, more people would come because they could access better seats easier, and there would be bigger groups of seats so people could sit together. And that's before even mentioning making the tickets cheaper, and that the extension of the popular stand at the KC would encourage more people to come.

This is why I never understand the argument people use against Hull KR extending Craven Park. The end stands are rubbish and no-one wants to go in them, and the popular stand is always sold out. Extend the popular stand, you are guaranteed to get more people.