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Last nights game confirms some things for me.

Out of the pack that played last night I would deffo only keep Taylor, Houghton Masi, .....with Westy and Green in last chance saloon, maybe not fully fit ??
Likewise we keep Bowden, Lane, Hadley, Savelio BUT they have to start playing like they belong in a champion pack.

Going forward, the rest are no longer Champion forwards today or ever will be, so we release. Washy, Ellis, Paea. Mini, Sika, Thompson, possibly Fash.

And bring in the 3/4 real quality replacements we crave to take us where the club and this fanbase belongs.
....and get Motu on a retainer

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "It’s a nightmare being a Hull fan, one week your up sinking a few with gay abandon.
Next week your hitting the Valium.'"


And therein lies the problem.
The differences in our peaks and troughs are vast and has been a common theme under Radford.
Our only consistency is our inconsistency.
For a team hoping to challenge for honours on a regular basis it needs addressing.

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Think we will have a clear out end of season last night was really poor. Can see a few changes for next week.

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Quote: Bombed Out "And therein lies the problem.
The differences in our peaks and troughs are vast and has been a common theme under Radford.
Our only consistency is our inconsistency.
For a team hoping to challenge for honours on a regular basis it needs addressing.'"



That's pretty much every side the last 5 years.

I honestly think that Pearson and Radford know it and try to address it players wise next year.

We have basis of a very good side, pivots are good enough and backs aren't far off, just need a bit more pace.

Forwards are the key.

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Personally I would ship out the deadwood regardless of who is available. The likes of Thompson and Fash will simply never be top half of SL standard. If it means we have a skinny squad and have to blood more kids then so be it. I prefer that to keeping on players who's long term future is elsewhere. It's not like the youngsters could perform a lot worse.

Cut the squad by 5 or 6 bodies, spend that extra cash on a handful of quality imports, and rely more on the academy.

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Quote: Bombed Out "And therein lies the problem.
The differences in our peaks and troughs are vast and has been a common theme under Radford.
Our only consistency is our inconsistency.
For a team hoping to challenge for honours on a regular basis it needs addressing.'"



It's not just been under Radford though has it , It was said a few years back (maybe under Gentle ?) we need to bring nearer our worst performances and our best performances closer together . This is just not happening .

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Quote: B0NES "It's not just been under Radford though has it , It was said a few years back (maybe under Gentle ?) we need to bring nearer our worst performances and our best performances closer together . This is just not happening .'"


But it's not an ingrained Hull thing it's a coaching quality.
You don't just join Hull and wake up an inconsistent or poor player.
Consistency and mind set start at the top and in that we are lacking.
We were very fortunate with the squad we had in 2016/17, a team that could motivate and marshall themselves.
Can we again replicate that next year, who knows.

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The Army v Navy RU match is on Sky Sports this afternoon. Let's hope Naulago come through OK.

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Pick out the senior players who have played in all the drubbings, those and the ones like thompson, logan who we know arnt good enough or consistent enough to be at a top 4 club.

The seniors should be leading by example when were met with abit of adversity, imo i only ever see Ellis and Taylor and now and again Houghton doing this.

We needed big games from Mini, Manu, Green, Ellis, Taylor and Houghton last night as well as Westerman and Hadley who can be very inconsitent

Must be released list for me is Mini, Manu, Paea, Washy, Thompson, Logan

Must find consistency list
Hadley, Fash, Westerman , Green and Bowden when hes back

Id recruit two quality second rowers with decent injury records who can offer leadership and presence Joel Thompson and Alex Glenn perhaps, couple that with a hard hitting prop with a big presence. Bring Brown through too id honestly think about replacing Green with Jack Brown.

Let Jordan Lane, Bienek and Jez Litten benefit from Washys, Thompson and Possibly Fashs release too.

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Good performance from Ratu in the RU. Well taken try towards the end, powerful run along the touchline.

Looking forward to seeing him back in the team on Friday.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Good performance from Ratu in the RU. Well taken try towards the end, powerful run along the touchline.

Looking forward to seeing him back in the team on Friday.'"


Could be (if Connor available)
Connor
Faraimo
Tuimavave
Griffin
Naulago
Kelly
Sneyd

A slightly different proposition to
Wynne
Buchanan
Griffin
Logan
Faraimo
Connor
Westerman

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All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason. -[i:1c45x4hd]Emmitt Smith[/i:1c45x4hd]:



Griffin needs a week off he was absolutely blowing last night.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Could be (if Connor available)
Connor
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Tuimavave
Griffin
Naulago
Kelly
Sneyd

A slightly different proposition to
Wynne
Buchanan
Griffin
Logan
Faraimo
Connor
Westerman'"


Would be a massive boost to our chances of reaching the quarter finals.

Quote: Mrs Barista "Griffin needs a week off he was absolutely blowing last night.'"


If he needs a rest do it the week after at Warrington which we will lose anyway.

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Quote: Bombed Out "But it's not an ingrained Hull thing it's a coaching quality.
You don't just join Hull and wake up an inconsistent or poor player.
Consistency and mind set start at the top and in that we are lacking.
We were very fortunate with the squad we had in 2016/17, a team that could motivate and marshall themselves.
Can we again replicate that next year, who knows.'"


If you look at Castleford who have had their fair share of injuries and are also missing their halfbacks dig in and keep going.
Not often you see a blowout against Cas.
The coaching is stale and needs to change.

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Quote: the cal train "Griffin needs a week off he was absolutely blowing last night.'"


Why does he need to rest.
We dont play again for another week

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