Absolutely gutted if that's true. I think he could be one of the best props in Super League for a decade if he stayed. As for Manu, I think it will take at least 2 seasons for us to assemble a squad capable of winning things, and I don't see Manu being the same player in 2 years time. So good luck to him, and I hope he wins some silverware before he retires. Losing players like Moa and Turner is a much bigger blow in the grand scheme of things.

I didn't want to see us lose Manu, Turner or Moa but it looks like they've all decided to be elsewhere next season. Our recruitment for 2013 is now going to have to be much bigger than I envisaged and is starting to look more like another clear-out.

I just don't see how we can find enough quality players that will be available and affordable under the cap. The new regime have certainly got their work cut out if we're to have much more than another season of "transition".

Let's hope that AP, SM and PG have their hats full of rabbits!

i agree. thought he would sign for 1 last season

Turner, Moa, Manu, Martin, Ogre, Ellis, Wade?

That's a lot of recruiting.

So far Johnson, Crookes and Arundel.

Not sure the recruitment is as good as what we are losing so far tbh, hopefully a bit more quality to come

Missed Elis off that list. Hope Briscoe see's his contract out. Johnson may replace O'carroll, heard he may go depending on injuries?

There really seems to be a lot going, far more than I anticipated. Not too concerned about Ellis hopefully he will kick on with his development more with a team like Cas, however I hope we are bringing in a 6 then as losing Ellis will leave us with limited options in cover, Nicklas has a way to go imo.
I hope Briscoe stays as he will take some replacing, O'Caroll is cracking on the pitch but the injury situation is a worry but we have some good lads coming through in that area so not too concerned. Replacing Moa & O'meley is a big concern, basically it will resemble a new team next year, bit of a concern all this really.

Not concerned one bit about what's going on recruitment wise, the last board gave ridiculous contracts to players that wouldn't get it anywhere else. Hopefully this will give Gentle the flexibility within the cap to mould his own squad. The problem is that we possibly have another season of transition in 2013, given Gentle only signed a 3 year deal (I think?) I hope he's here to see it through.

I agree there will be players on silly contracts, however my concern is based more on the fact we appear to not be able to retain our key players to stay, Moa, Manu, Turner, Briscoe (maybe), Wade (maybe) the signing of G.Ellis allegedly had agents knocking the door down.

I reckon we will be in the market for an aussie prop. Also a fullback to replace Wade if he's going or a halfback with Horne going to fullback.

That would be my concern, the signing of Ellis was supposed to have players beating our door down to play for us, seems at the moment if all rumours are true to be having the opposite effect.

Well if we lose O'Meley, Moa and O'Caroll we will need more than 1 prop, it is an area we are already short in, doubt we can count on Radders next year