Its interesting isn't it and I would recommend everyone reads Gareths book as it is excellent. And despite the fact that we have a squad so much weaker than that of even a few years ago tperhaps at last we have an answer to the connundrum of why despite the fact that players coaches and backroom staff come and go the same culture runs through the the club year on year. The banter stuff where players don't know when to end it and when to be serious. That for me explains a lot attitude wise out on the pitch because it does look like a joke to some of them. The place is just a mess. and once again Clark and Adam asked by Davidson to comment but refuse.

I use to think eastenders was depressing
It reminds be of the frankie Howard
Up Pompeii sketch on here..
( I know I’m showing my age ).
Could be worse I suppose ,
Bonaire and cuddle club (meme)
wont like this but
I could find a club on poorhouse lane with three stands for a ground and a lot of pretence of being big time Charlie’s.

The fish rots from the Head - simple as that ! Adam has admitted he didn’t take a lot of interest in the past and likely not much now !

It’s like a badly run restaurant in Kitchen Nightmares where the owner has given up and microwaves the meals and the Head Chef (Tony) is trying to sell poorly cooked fancy French food for £50 a head on Gypsyville Est

It’s all wrong top to bottom

So for Friday - we don’t know how to score never mind win
We’re not set up to win and we can’t defend
Dobbins want it more as we seem to have stopped focusing on winning but rather producing some kind of woke team culture crap

I fear for the result as I’ve never seen softer tries than the ones v Leigh and Giants in the last 2 weeks

FC will have patches where they try hard but who cares ? They should try hard the whole damn match and that should be a given

All we need to do according to sofa coaches on here is
Drop Jordan Lane and select Balmforth at hooker , then it’s happy days and book old Trafford in October.
At risk of repeating myself ..
Let’s wait and see when we actually get the main bulk of our salary cap on the field.

Who, apart from Trueman would make a difference if they were playing tomorrow?

Be lucky to see the main bulk of salary cap on the field as a fair few of are injury prone and the rest are ill disciplined. Trueman, Hoy, Tuimavave, Sutcliffe, Cator, Scott have all missed a lot of games for us through injury, Houghton struggling this season too.

Injuries are part and parcel of the sport, but we don’t help ourselves signing crocks. Coupled with the lack of S&C staff. However, the discipline side of things should have been sorted out by now. What looks like a lack of fitness won’t help, consistently making errors forcing us to defend for large parts of games will contribute too. Something that should have been sorted by now.

Season is over before our only natural half back is back in full training. If only anyone could have foreseen this …

Exactly, Walker and at a push Fash. But the rest … meh.

Walker - all energy, always around the ball but wince everytime he gets tackled
Fash - better than the likes of Jack Brown but hardly a game changer
Tuimavave - lucky to see a game out
Cator - if playing 13, offers nothing Houghton wouldn’t and god forbid Smith tries him at 9

If and it’s a big if
We could get our best17 team on the pitch for 80 mins then yes we could match most teams.
Pele hadn’t played full game yet
Ese hasn’t played more than one game yet
Sutcliffe hasn’t played 3 games yet
Okunbor has been poor unfortunately
Cator Fash both did a lot of workmanlike tidying up defensive work .
Nu brown playing out of position hasn’t helped either

I’m not the biggest smith fan either but his hands are tied with what he’s got.
“ fans” constantly slagging on here calling local born players they are not good enough doesn’t do any good ..
Posters like Bonaire & cuddle club are dobbins in disguise that are winding others up.
Oh yes by the way
I’m not adam or Tony , I’m just ut just a fan that supported the club for 50 years

It’s so so easy to criticise
Not so easy to support though is it?

This is frightening - it made me gasp out loud :

In his book, Ellis wrote: "What we struggled to eradicate was what I would call the ‘banter’ culture at Hull. It had existed for as long as I had been at the club, not just taking the out of each other but, more worryingly, out of the values you pretend to uphold. At the top clubs, they know when the banter ends and the serious stuff begins."

And this :

Former halfback Jake Clifford had this to say recently about the standards at Hull FC in 2023. When asked on Australian radio if he could compare a pre-season in England and Australia, he said: “No chance. Pre-season in England was a piece of really compared to what we go through here.”

I think I read a different forum to you.

All I've read is a desire to see Balmforth given opportunities on the basis we are poor in the area he may shine.

Rovers will just kill us through the middle the same way Leigh did. Leigh found so much success behind the ruck because our big lads couldn't turn quick enough. Rovers will just do exactly the same unfortunately.

Were not the only one getting 'crucified' today , i am praying we dont but i just cant see any other outcome today, kr doing the basics will be more than enough for us i fear..i know form goes out the window in these games but the gulf atm is way yo big.