Maybe lose Connor?

and of course the generous -6 on saints at the bookies

Carlos excellent again tonight.

Maybe but would imagine we replace him.

At least we gave it a dig but we are rubbish with ball in hand. I'm sure our attack will be much better with some new forwards and outside backs.

Sneyd has been garbage for weeks and Kelly needs a big pre season and to shed some serious weight

He goes under the radar a bit but he is consistently excellent I agree.
Hopefully he'll go well next year with a more threatening second row.

Were paea and Manu dropped?

Not sure about Paea. Manu walked round at the beginning but looked like he was struggling.

I thought he was just milking it

He's had an excellent second half of the season IMO. Looking forward to seeing him and Fonua back together.

Much improved effort but the lack of skill is easy to see and Saints would have upped their game if it meant something to them.

Still could have been worse, the fans would have been in meltdown with another poor effort. But there is a lot to put right this Winter and new signings won't fix everything.

Not really been fit all year in all probability. Still, replacing a struggling Sika and ageing Minichiello with Ma'u and Jones certainly looks like a trade up.

Due to injury.

I was happy with the commitment effort and determination of our side tonight, the supporters were superb at the end, the Prescott factor, the leaving players, it was a pleasure to be part of it.

A sub standard referee didn’t help, but we kept going, showing qualities which have been absent in the last two games, a magnificent send off for Mini Sika Washy Westy Mickey P an emotional night at the KC, and considering our failings of late, a magnificent crowd who mainly stayed till the end. We have our faults, but we are one of the best supported clubs, it’s in our blood, we go again.