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| Quote: *1865* "Our current u19's are 3rd in the league 2 points off 1st place Wigan, despite the majority of them being a year younger. Let's not give them a chance, let's sign a 23 year old that's managed a whopping 13 first grade games.
Laughable really, signings like this are what hold you back cap wise, he won't be on a pittance. Do you think Wigan or Leeds would make this kind of signing?'"
What have the U19's position got to do with ours?! You do realise there's a big gulf in class and ability, right?
You probably moaned when we signed Moa without giving him a chance. Probably moaned that signing Prescott for the second time was keeping some 17 year old away from his rightful shirt.
Just to be clear, I'd actually prefer to see Abbo given the 13 shirt and Westerman try and earn it back because Abdull already looks like a SL player with confidence and lack of fear.
As with ALL SL teams, they will only blood youngsters when their most experienced and valuable players are out. That is how you see if they can truly make the grade. It happens in ALL sports.
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| Quote: *1865* "Our current u19's are 3rd in the league 2 points off 1st place Wigan, despite the majority of them being a year younger. Let's not give them a chance, let's sign a 23 year old that's managed a whopping 13 first grade games.
Laughable really, signings like this are what hold you back cap wise, he won't be on a pittance. Do you think Wigan or Leeds would make this kind of signing?'"
Chuck all the youngsters in and dont bother signing any1. Their from hull. It'll be fine.
What utter crap. We'd get beasted. Hes playing at a level thats only just below SL and standing out. Our 19s are playing about 4levels below and physically are4 yrs behind him. At least 1 n some cases 2 yrs away from week in week out standard physically and mentally.
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "What have the U19's position got to do with ours?! You do realise there's a big gulf in class and ability, right?
You probably moaned when we signed Moa without giving him a chance. Probably moaned that signing Prescott for the second time was keeping some 17 year old away from his rightful shirt.
Just to be clear, I'd actually prefer to see Abbo given the 13 shirt and Westerman try and earn it back because Abdull already looks like a SL player with confidence and lack of fear.
As with ALL SL teams, they will only blood youngsters when their most experienced and valuable players are out. That is how you see if they can truly make the grade. It happens in ALL sports.'"
He's always right mate because he watches the u19s, although ears only plays his mates, he's gone out & signed a kid who is going to play in kirks position, but it's ok he can break it to him next time theyre in big fun!
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| I think people here need to learn the difference between giving a young kid a chance and giving them the 7 jumper. There's no reason to suggest HTW and Dean won't get a chance in the first team next year, but given that neither have pulled the shirt on yet so it makes complete sense to recruit from elsewhere.
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| Quote: *1865* "Laughable really, signings like this are what hold you back cap wise, he won't be on a pittance. Do you think Wigan or Leeds would make this kind of signing?'"
You mean a player like Anthony Gelling, at the time a 21 year old with roughly 0 first grade games?
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| Sarginson & gelling no Wigan only sign proven players.
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "What have the U19's position got to do with ours?! You do realise there's a big gulf in class and ability, right?
You probably moaned when we signed Moa without giving him a chance. Probably moaned that signing Prescott for the second time was keeping some 17 year old away from his rightful shirt.
Just to be clear, I'd actually prefer to see Abbo given the 13 shirt and Westerman try and earn it back because Abdull already looks like a SL player with confidence and lack of fear.
As with ALL SL teams, they will only blood youngsters when their most experienced and valuable players are out. That is how you see if they can truly make the grade. It happens in ALL sports.'"
Yet more superfluous BS.
Think people need to understand what it is i'm saying. I'm saying that, in this instance, i'd rather we gave Logan the chance than a reject NRL. Yes i'm quite aware that the odd NRL 'reject' has turned out to be decent. But for every Sam Moa, there's 4 or 5 Brett Seymour's.
Some people (luckily nobody at the club) also seem to be talking about him moving to 6 when Pryce retires! Well, again i'd rather HTW be given that chance alongside Sneyd, who by then will have had 2 years at the club and will be in a position of experience to help someone like HTW settle in.
We also have Abdull, who at the moment should be kept mainly in the halves with the odd bit of game time at LF. Giving him the 13 shirt would be silly, the pack is far more demanding and he doesn't possess great fitness & stamina, yet!
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "Sarginson & gelling no Wigan only sign proven players.'"
Sarginson had played 50 SL games!
Gelling is fair enough, of course there's instances of it working out. But like i've just said - for every Sam Moa there's 4 or 5 Seymour's or Hutch Maiava's.
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Chuck all the youngsters in and dont bother signing any1. Their from hull. It'll be fine.
What utter crap. We'd get beasted. Hes playing at a level thats only just below SL and standing out. Our 19s are playing about 4levels below and physically are4 yrs behind him. At least 1 n some cases 2 yrs away from week in week out standard physically and mentally.'"
Well that's not what I said at all, is it?
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "He's always right mate because he watches the u19s, although ears only plays his mates, he's gone out & signed a kid who is going to play in kirks position, but it's ok he can break it to him next time theyre in big fun!'"
You mean the young lad who's Motu's mate?
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| Quote: *1865* "Sarginson had played 50 SL games!
Can't call playing for London a game, my nanna would have got a game for them but she goes to bingo on a Sunday, Seymour wrecked himself. He played a good level before coming here.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "Can't call playing for London a game, my nanna would have got a game for them but she goes to bingo on a Sunday, Seymour wrecked himself. He played a good level before coming here.'"
Great debating.
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| Quote: *1865* "You mean the young lad who's Motu's mate?
Same as frank eh? But suppose turgut or brad fash are better already.
Your making yourself look daft pal. The 19s & SL are a different level.
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| Quote: *1865* "Great debating.'"
But a lot of players got played in that London team what shouldn't have been played but they had no choice yet to sling their youth in & look how that ended.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "But a lot of players got played in that London team what shouldn't have been played but they had no choice yet to sling their youth in & look how that ended.'"
Well, Wigan certainly saw enough in Sarginson. Rovers did in Dixon, Vea at Saints, McMeekan at Cas, Kaufusi went to Hudds and now has played this year for the Doggies. There was certainly some talent in that team.
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