To say how dire the conditions were, that was a very handy performance and win. Towering defence. Well done lads. Privilege to applaud Menzies from the pitch too. Really good night.

I think I just said that, didn't I? Except I must have forgot to do that at Wembley. Or last week. And thinking about it I don't do it so much when I'm listening to the radio as I can't actually see what's going on. But nevermind - if you say it's so then it must be so.


Actually not the case. A ref will often be poor for both sides and we might get the worst of it due to circumstances we should be controlling.

Is this where I should start pretending that you always support the refs no matter how crap they are? That's how this type of 'argument' is supposed to progress, isn't it? Unproven claims and false dichotomies?


So when Thaler gave a penalty for interference when the Catalan player threw himself to the ground with no Hull player within 2 feet of him, that was our own fault?

Righto.

I think we all know the area we need to improve in the off season , Defense again wins us the game .

I don't 'support' refs, I simply accept that they do a very difficult job, and that most fans' views of a referee's performance are coloured by the team they support. You are a particularly pertinent example of this. You and my dad, who is exactly the same.



Of course not, silly. But there were plenty of occasions where we could/should have been penalised but weren't. The same for them. If you took your black and white specs off and watched again, you'd see that this was the case.

.... and another match when he was never tackled.

After watching tonight we need to play whiting at Loose forward, his ball handling skills are far superior to westermans and more likely to have ellis going through gaps offf whitings offloads

Great team performance tonight and defence was excellent. Short kicking game continues to be poor though

Your defence cant be faulted, although it kind of ruined the game to watch.. Catalans had the ball most of the time but I already knew they wouldnt get over the damn line no matter how many sets they had. On the other hand Catalans offered nothing going forward near your line and youll need the same effort next week whoever you get

He actually made a few decent tackles.

TBH i don't see what your getting at??

Holdsworth does do tackling when needed throughout the game. An isn't it right that the SO/SH shouldn't really get tackled. That shows a good SO/SH. (Unless taking the line on, where i agree Holdsworth rarely does but we have Miller for that and DJ for kicking)

Not sure if thats sarcastic, but am watching again having just got in

I did remember some argy bargy early on, plus there was the tread on Azza's ankle, then the minor blow up later in the second half that Elima (of course) got involved in. I thought generally their discipline was terrible tonight and played rit into our hands

I did think that might have been our best defensive showing of the year (was the Menzies no try their only crossing of the line?) and if we can keep that up, who knows. We may need to score a few tries too though.

You see, I don't think it was a great performance. Sure, we defended well, but we were aided in this by Catalans' utterly clueless attack. Their structures are even worse than ours - two passes along the line then an inside ball to a forward. We could have defended that all night.

There was plenty of effort and determination in our performance, but we invited them into our 20 with ball in hand far too often. If we give Hudds/Wire/Leeds that number of opportunities, it'll be an embarrassing scoreline in their favour. The team deserve credit for getting through, but a significant improvement is needed if we are to be competitive next week.

Not read any previous posts.

Outstanding defence won you the game and all credit for that!
I can't honestly understand how you got away with constantly messing around in the tackle and slowing the play down. Laying on, hands on the ball etc you would be pulled up at least twice in every set if you where playing in the NRL but those tactics helped you win the game, not great for us neutrals to watch though.

A deserved win tonight for you boys. It showed that lessons were learned from the Wembley defeat especially with the kicking game ( on the floor rather than in the air) and again great defence.

Mind you Danny Houghton . Is he ever onside?

A very good performance typical of or season in a lot of ways - hard graft, grinding the opposition down, riding a bit of luck, not quite clicking in attack, a moment or two of brilliance.