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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| i'd happliy give him a 2 year extention.
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| Quote: Sheldon "i'd happliy give him a 2 year extention.'"
Sounds painful
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Calderwood has been excellent for us since the moment he signed. Throughout the crap we endured last year he was one of the few who looked consistently interested. Added to that, he is one of the fastest wingers in SL.
I cannot, for the life of me, see a reason why any Hull fan would want to get rid of him. It baffles me.'"
Age is the only reason I can think of, but if he's still performing offer him a one year extension?
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47381.jpg "Common sense is the deposit of prejudice laid down in the mind before the age of eighteen."
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| Quote: Swiss Tony "Age is the only reason I can think of, but if he's still performing offer him a one year extension?'"
He's only 28, isn't he?
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| Quote: Hutchie "Been mentioned that we are looking at Aaron Murphy from Wakey tho hasnt it ?'"
Looks to have pace in abundance. Had a good game both in defence and attack.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Berrigan has earned his money. .'"
he was bloody awful last night thats for sure, worst I have seen him.. did he make one run from acting half all night??
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "That was my point, I bet 100% of you guys on here believe that but he is a better player than Calderwood.
Stats are only useful if the person reading them knows what they really mean.
Stats without context also tell you very little. Example: metres made... easy to make metres if you're in a good team that can find space for you to run in. Tackles made... if you're in a team that's constantly defending, you'll make more tackles.
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30566.jpg I don't see it as a job. It is a passion and love that we all share. Neil Hudgell:30566.jpg |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Stats are only useful if the person reading them knows what they really mean.
Stats without context also tell you very little. Example
What about simple things like carries, his work rate is made out to be good, his carries dont suggest that.
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "he was bloody awful last night thats for sure, worst I have seen him.. did he make one run from acting half all night??'" Think Berro will have made more tackles last night than he had done in the previous games combined. Wigan did really well getting at him and tired him out. I think we need to do more to protect Berro in defence like Brisbane did by having him defending as a centre.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "What about simple things like carries, his work rate is made out to be good, his carries dont suggest that.'"
When you have less possession, you make less carries. He's not made that many carries less than the player you're comparing him to.
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30566.jpg I don't see it as a job. It is a passion and love that we all share. Neil Hudgell:30566.jpg |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "He's not made that many carries less than the player you're comparing him to.'"
Big difference between them in the number of total carries!
You read about his enthusiasm aswell, I think that may have been slightly over exaggerated due to the lack of passion from alot of the squad over the previous 2 seasons.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Big difference between them in the number of total carries!
You read about his enthusiasm aswell, I think that may have been slightly over exaggerated due to the lack of passion from alot of the squad over the previous 2 seasons.'"
He has been enthuaisastic at Leeds and Wigan and was just carrying that on
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30566.jpg I don't see it as a job. It is a passion and love that we all share. Neil Hudgell:30566.jpg |
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| Quote: fc baldy "He has been enthuaisastic at Leeds and Wigan and was just carrying that on'"
I mentioned previously that these stats are loved and hated by some but those stats tell me he might have looked enthusiastic but did little to back it up.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "I mentioned previously that these stats are loved and hated by some but those stats tell me he might have looked enthusiastic but did little to back it up.'"
Backs it up when i see him play
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Big difference between them in the number of total carries!
You read about his enthusiasm aswell, I think that may have been slightly over exaggerated due to the lack of passion from alot of the squad over the previous 2 seasons.'"
Is there?
2008
Calderwood - 13 appearances, 110 carries (about 8.5 per game)
Colborn - 26 appearances, 285 carries (about 11 per game)
So the difference at Wigan is slight. And if you look at any other stat that year, you need to bare in mind that he made half the number of appearances. Calderwood did nearly double the amount of dummy half runs in half the number of games, which suggests they used him in a much different way to Colborn.
2009
Calderwood - 19 appearances, 152 carries (8 per game)
Colborn - 24 appearances, 350 carries (about 14.5 per game)
Last year Hull were gash and barely touched the ball, and when we did it was straight down the middle stuff. Rovers were a good side and very expansive, so the wingers got more touches.
Again, look at the dummy half runs from Calderwood compared to Colborn. More than double, and in less games. More marker tackles (Hull had to tackle more). More tackles made (again, had to do more). Less missed tackles.
The number of carries says only so much about what someone is doing in a game. You need to look at the context.
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