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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6] [quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif



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We were 6th when Sharp arrived.

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Quote: trys'r'us "We were 6th when Sharp arrived.'"

The team he received on arrival finished 2nd that year. The last he left us with finished 12th. I don't doubt his ability as a coach but his signings were poor and he took us backwards.

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How do we know who was avaiable and who we could afford?

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Quote: Sheldon "How do we know who was avaiable and who we could afford?'"

I don't, but starting with a 2nd place side and ending up with a 12th place side is very poor. As for what we could afford, I'd assume Dykes and Berrigan where very highly paid. Sharp brought in Godwin when it was obvious that Swain was an 80 minute hooker and Wagga wasn't needed, he also wasted quota spots on Bryne, Sing and Dykes. He took us backwards, our results in the league prove it.

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Quote: Matty_HullFC " I don't doubt his ability as a coach but his signings were poor and he took us backwards.'"


Spot on there Matty but i feel sorry for Sharp as his hands were tied,
He has been slated a bit on here in the past about his handling of a certain player situation when in reality He had verbally agreed to sign someone only for another side to step in and get him at the last minute.

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Quote: trys'r'us "He's been by far our best player in his three years here. He was pretty much a one man team in his first year and really couldn't have done much more given what he's had to work with.

Sing couldn't have done much more in his first year. He worked his booty off bringing the ball out and finished just about every chance he got. He didn't have a chance in his second year.

We needed cover in the positions that Byrne played and he was the best available. Had we not brought in that cover, we'd have been short and Sharp would have been rightly castigated.

He was our best prop for two years and was much better than what we've had in his role previously. Plus he was a late signing after other options didn't come off. Had we then gone into the season a prop short with a quota space open, Sharp would, again, have been rightly criticised, especially after what happened to Carvell in our first game.

He was poor, but was no more of a gamble than Moa. One paid off, one didn't. It happens.

Rubbish. He used the available quota spots, as any coach would, and brought in the best that was available in the areas that we needed cover. Not all were ideal, and his hand was forced in a few cases, but his recruitment wasn't bad generally.'"


Berrigan has not performed at all since his first season here. Even then he failed to match his reputation.

Sing was a poor signing. Any viewers of NRL at the time knew he'd lost his pace. Another total waste of a quota space and generally ineffectual for us. The way he slipped off Leon Pryce at wembley was pathetic too.

No-one is in a position to say if Byrne was the best available or not. Plenty of gambles are made on recruitment, and usually with good coaches - the gamble pays off. This said - Todd was o.k.

Cusack was another nothing signing. Almost any prop in the competition could replicate what he's brought to us. Steady Eddy types are not hard to find.

Hutch was not a gamble like Moa at all. Hutch was in the back end of his career and improvement was unlikey. Moa was a youngster and blatantly had lot of improvement in him. Really untypical Hull FC signing and a refreshing change!

Overall his recruitment was as dour and imaginative as his style of Rugby. The only gambles he took was on injury prone players that we suffered greatly for.

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so has he got the job or not?

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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6] [quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif



Quote: Matty_HullFC "The team he received on arrival finished 2nd that year. The last he left us with finished 12th. I don't doubt his ability as a coach but his signings were poor and he took us backwards.'"


It finished 2nd after the changes he made improved it beyond recognition. His signings generally weren't bad at all. Having hands tied and forced were reasons for the poorer signings, but the majority were fine. We were screwed over by injuries and a defection, which are the main reasons for the poor performances at the start of 2007 and 2008.

Quote: Matty_HullFC "Berrigan has not performed at all since his first season here. Even then he failed to match his reputation.'"


Done this argument plenty of times and no-one has yet managed to tell me what it is they expected Berrigan to do that he hasn't and where their expectation came from. Berrgian has been very good in his time here, especially given what he's had to work with.

Quote: Matty_HullFC "Sing was a poor signing. Any viewers of NRL at the time knew he'd lost his pace. Another total waste of a quota space and generally ineffectual for us. The way he slipped off Leon Pryce at wembley was pathetic too.'"


He'd lost a bit of pace (not that much though, he only really suffered in that area after his foot injury with us), but was still a great player. The amount of work he, along with Raynor and Tony, put in through 2007 was unreal. Possibly the hardest working back three I've ever seen. Picking up on one missed tackle to use as a reason for a player being a poor signing is even more pathetic.

Quote: Matty_HullFC "No-one is in a position to say if Byrne was the best available or not. Plenty of gambles are made on recruitment, and usually with good coaches - the gamble pays off. This said - Todd was o.k.'"


He was undoubtedly the best available at the time to cover the positions he could, positions that we needed cover for.

Quote: Matty_HullFC "Cusack was another nothing signing. Almost any prop in the competition could replicate what he's brought to us. Steady Eddy types are not hard to find.'"


He was our best prop for two years and I've not seen any other prop in SL perform the role he did as well as he did in those two years.

Quote: Matty_HullFC "Hutch was not a gamble like Moa at all. Hutch was in the back end of his career and improvement was unlikey. Moa was a youngster and blatantly had lot of improvement in him. Really untypical Hull FC signing and a refreshing change!'"


They were both gambles on big, overweight props who needed to get fit. Moa just about has, Maiava didn't.

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Quote: Matty_HullFC "The team he received on arrival finished 2nd that year.'"
So you think if Kear had remained in charge we would have still finished 2nd and made the GF ?

Sharp deserves a ton of credit for bringing discipline to the club and his role in bringing the team together and getting us to the GF despite how the team was in dissaray after we won the CC due to Kear pretty much taking all of the glory and giving very little credit to the players.

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Quote: trys'r'us "Well argued.'"


Cheers, but I've tried having a conversation on here with you before and it bored me less.

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Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "So you think if Kear had remained in charge we would have still finished 2nd and made the GF ?

Sharp deserves a ton of credit for bringing discipline to the club and his role in bringing the team together and getting us to the GF despite how the team was in dissaray after we won the CC due to Kear pretty much taking all of the glory and giving very little credit to the players.'"

No, I've always said I've rated him as a coach however the quality of team he left us with was a lot worse than the quality of team we had when he came and thus is the reason he got sacked - his terrible signings.

Compare his signings of Hutch, Dykes, Godwin, Sing, Bryne to Agar's of Moa, Long, Fitzgibbon, O'Meley, Calderwood, Hame. He did sign good players in Manu and Tickle but it was too little and he took the quality of our squad down IMO.

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Quote: trys'r'us "It finished 2nd after the changes he made improved it beyond recognition. His signings generally weren't bad at all. Having hands tied and forced were reasons for the poorer signings, but the majority were fine. We were screwed over by injuries and a defection, which are the main reasons for the poor performances at the start of 2007 and 2008.

Done this argument plenty of times and no-one has yet managed to tell me what it is they expected Berrigan to do that he hasn't and where their expectation came from. Berrgian has been very good in his time here, especially given what he's had to work with.

He'd lost a bit of pace (not that much though, he only really suffered in that area after his foot injury with us), but was still a great player. The amount of work he, along with Raynor and Tony, put in through 2007 was unreal. Possibly the hardest working back three I've ever seen. Picking up on one missed tackle to use as a reason for a player being a poor signing is even more pathetic.

He was undoubtedly the best available at the time to cover the positions he could, positions that we needed cover for.

He was our best prop for two years and I've not seen any other prop in SL perform the role he did as well as he did in those two years.

They were both gambles on big, overweight props who needed to get fit. Moa just about has, Maiava didn't.'"



Utter nonsense from start to finish. No point continuing.

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Quote: Raggytash "Sing was a poor signing. Any viewers of NRL at the time knew he'd lost his pace. Another total waste of a quota space and generally ineffectual for us. The way he slipped off Leon Pryce at wembley was pathetic too.'"

He was our top try scorer in his first season here. Was heading that way in his second before his injury. He defended well 95% of the time and worked hard when running the ball back or spelling the forwards.

What else do you expect from a winger?

Quote: Raggytash "Overall his recruitment was as dour and imaginative as his style of Rugby. The only gambles he took was on injury prone players that we suffered greatly for.'"

Recruitment was patchy but the style of rugby was a direct consequence of having no half backs for most of the time he was here.

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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6] [quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif



Quote: Raggytash "Utter nonsense from start to finish. No point continuing.'"


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Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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