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Quote: berrigans bitch "As I posted I have seen a lot of deprivation, first hand, also I have done voluntary work/research with groups who encounter various degrees of suffering within society whilst I was studying.

This is not getting personal for me, however I suggest you read your posts, this may offer you an insight into the replies/reactions you get. I enjoy debating/discussing various topics with posters as the majority whether they agree or disagree appear to have the skills to debate/discuss, and know when to agree to disagree without it getting stupid.'"


again, I ask where you have seen it, it provides context.

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Quote: Standee "again, I ask where you have seen it, it provides context.'"


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You are unreal, I would have not had a problem with providing you with an answer,however it provides context for what ? my honesty ? your judgment?
This may come as a shock but your own opinions/feelings on what even constitues deprivation do not qualify you to access if some-one has seen deprivation first hand. Your opinions of all people living on 'sink estates'(your term) who all get pregnant etc, display nothing more to me than ignorance. You may have found a documentary interesting which was on Channel 4, the documentary involved a guy(Kevin McCloud I believe, living in the slums in India, a place full of depravation, however what shocked the him most was how organised and happy these people were.
I really have no desire to discuss this issue with you any-more.

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Completely OT, but what a fantastic documentary that was eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: berrigans bitch "icon_eek.gif I think what he's trying to get at is that the term sink estate is used too freely. I live on Bransholme. I tend to say that I live on Dorchester Road, not because I'm a snob, but because people generally think that Bransholme is rough and that's it's inhabitants are generally law breakers and layabouts.

The truth is very different. Every house on my row has people who go out to work, the kids go to school and are all a good bunch who we all keep an eye on when they're larking out. I often get tarred with the 'Estate' brush which really annoys me. I live on Bransholme because the house we bought was a good price for a good size. I know of people who have sold their overpriced rabbit hutches on Kingswood and bought a house near us for half the price and almost double the size.

It's postcode snobbery, simple as.

Getting to the above point...where I live has been called a sink estate in the past. In reality it is VERY far from it.

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Quote: Karen xx "I think what he's trying to get at is that the term sink estate is used too freely. I live on Bransholme. I tend to say that I live on Dorchester Road, not because I'm a snob, but because people generally think that Bransholme is rough and that's it's inhabitants are generally law breakers and layabouts.

The truth is very different. Every house on my row has people who go out to work, the kids go to school and are all a good bunch who we all keep an eye on when they're larking out. I often get tarred with the 'Estate' brush which really annoys me. I live on Bransholme because the house we bought was a good price for a good size. I know of people who have sold their overpriced rabbit hutches on Kingswood and bought a house near us for half the price and almost double the size.

It's postcode snobbery, simple as.

Getting to the above point...where I live has been called a sink estate in the past. In reality it is VERY far from it.'"


high-five.gif I lived on Bransholme from the age of 14-24 so I totally agree and understand your post, I live down the road now Suton Park(Known affectinately as Branshome with double galzing icon_lol.gif ) purely as I considered the property as an investment opprotunity but still share your postcode HU7..sadly a lot of attitudes towards various aspect in society are snobbery and ignorance, the trouble is I should know better and just post my view and have done, but in my defence it is a topic I am passionate about. Apologise if I have bored the pants off people though with my rants icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: berrigans bitch " Apologise if I have bored the pants off people though with my rants Well at least you've apologised icon_wink.gif

Just kidding. I agree with a lot of what you're saying but also disagree with a few (basically what Kosh pointed out).

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Well at least you've apologised icon_lol.gif
Fair point Kosh as usual raises some very valid and interesting points when he is discussing/debating.

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Quote: Karen xx "I think what he's trying to get at is that the term sink estate is used too freely. I live on Bransholme. I tend to say that I live on Dorchester Road, not because I'm a snob, but because people generally think that Bransholme is rough and that's it's inhabitants are generally law breakers and layabouts.

The truth is very different. Every house on my row has people who go out to work, the kids go to school and are all a good bunch who we all keep an eye on when they're larking out. I often get tarred with the 'Estate' brush which really annoys me. I live on Bransholme because the house we bought was a good price for a good size. I know of people who have sold their overpriced rabbit hutches on Kingswood and bought a house near us for half the price and almost double the size.

It's postcode snobbery, simple as.

Getting to the above point...where I live has been called a sink estate in the past. In reality it is VERY far from it.'"


Try "North West Sutton"

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Quote: Karen xx "I think what he's trying to get at is that the term sink estate is used too freely. I live on Bransholme. I tend to say that I live on Dorchester Road, not because I'm a snob, but because people generally think that Bransholme is rough and that's it's inhabitants are generally law breakers and layabouts.

The truth is very different. Every house on my row has people who go out to work, the kids go to school and are all a good bunch who we all keep an eye on when they're larking out. I often get tarred with the 'Estate' brush which really annoys me. I live on Bransholme because the house we bought was a good price for a good size. I know of people who have sold their overpriced rabbit hutches on Kingswood and bought a house near us for half the price and almost double the size.

It's postcode snobbery, simple as.

Getting to the above point...where I live has been called a sink estate in the past. In reality it is VERY far from it.'"


Spot on Karen.

I'll start the day with an apology to anyone I've offended with my comments, it hasn't been my intention.

There are actually very few sink estates remaining in the UK, some areas of Glasgow are still as bad as ever, as are some inner city estates in London, a small part of Leeds and an equally small part of Sheffield, interestingly the thing that has helped us improve these areas has been, by and large, sport, or the EU. I tend to get angry when people start telling me text books and degrees are worth more than 8 years of working amongst social problems first hand, if you've ever been collecting rent in the Gorbals then you really HAVE seen a sink estate (well, it was at the time, but even that area has improved)

ANYWAY - Hudgell, desperate?, I think so!

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Wonder if he'll be on the babys feet case this morning

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Quote: Karen xx "the kids go to school '"


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end of the day hudgell is doing what he is payed to do his JOB

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Quote: Danny 2 "end of the day hudgell is doing what he is payed to do his JOB'"


No, he's doing what he CHOSE, chasing ambulances, which is a measure of his integrity.

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Quote: Standee "No, he's doing what he CHOSE, chasing ambulances, which is a measure of his integrity.'"


I don't like the man but I fail to see how someone taking a perfectly valid and legal opportunity can have his integrity questionned. He's only taking advantage of the current legal system and you can't blame him for that

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Quote: Jake the Peg "I don't like the man but I fail to see how someone taking a perfectly valid and legal opportunity can have his integrity questionned. He's only taking advantage of the current legal system and you can't blame him for that'"

I think we can blame him for exerything - including the disaster in Haiti.

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