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| All opinions from all and sundry won't affect the man who bank rolls the club. Its a reality of business and that's what it is, if you don't at least break even either you go bust or someone puts cash in and takes the hit. We've had it at Rover's for years
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "The club has lost £1.5m since 2010.
The user agreement is becoming increasingly challenging.
Average gates in 2010 were 14,000, so are down around 30%with commensurate reductions in sponsorship.
Call it bleating if you like, but don't imply there's no financial difficulty here, or claim you weren't given notice of it.'"
Are you actually a real person or just some mouthpiece of the club?
We all know whats happening with the club - its struggling and the owner seemingly wants to blame everyone from the SMC to the fans when the main responsibility lies at the owners door. He shafted the club with joke coaching teams, fell out with the SMC owner by trying to nick his sponsors then when things are starting to hit rock bottom he goes and mergers academies with our biggest forever leaching neighbour alienating yet more supporters and making sponsors leave in their droves
Pearson is an imbicile of the highest magnitude and most fans see this apart from she who tries to act so intelligent yet keeps towing the company line rather than come out against the constant ineptitude from the owner and its staff - that simply says to me you are one of the same and ive said it many times before but its fans like yourself (if you are one) that hold this club back and not the ones who choose to keep their money in their pocket
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| are you for real ?
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "I think if he goes and I believe he will if cash is offered, (however whether anyone will offer cash is another matter) then the days of us getting a back we so desperately need are receding fast and the money will instead I think be used to prop up the Club. If that happens and he does leave for a fee then what we do with the cash will be a good indicator of where we are financially.'"
It will be a good indicator as to whether Pearson wants shot of the club and doesn't want to 'invest' a penny more than he has to until he sells up. He's clearly given up on the investing in the future of the club on a scale that actually means anything.
Right from the off he's done things by halves and now because of his own mistakes he's done with investing in the club properly.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
Pearson has lost the club £1.5m since 2010 due to not investigating into the clubs financials properly before purchase nor running it properly, doing things on the cheap, not putting in proper infrastructure/personnel, making awful decisions time & time & time again and making large pay-offs and blaming others to cover said mistakes/lack of ability to run a business.
The user agreement is becoming increasingly challenging.
Average gates in 2010 were 14,000, so are down around 30%with commensurate reductions in sponsorship.
Call it bleating if you like, but don't imply there's no financial difficulty here, or claim you weren't given notice of it.'"
FTFY
Since the cost of season passes has increased considerably since 2010 and we no longer offer a CC match in that pass nor do we offer free away entrance to juniors how much is the income from fans through the door 2010 year on year to 2015? Certainly not a 30% differential!
Much of the losses are down to Pearson's ineptitude but then you can't even see it nor would admit it if it slapped you in the chops!
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| Quote: *1865* " Would rather keep Westerman than have Manu, especially on Manu's recent form at Penrith.'"
If Manu's recent form at Penrith is carried forward to Hull he will not make it as a reserve for the first team squad. His last few games there were as a prop and totally uninspiring,having fallen out of favour as a second rower at the club.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Are you actually a real person or just some mouthpiece of the club?
We all know whats happening with the club - its struggling and the owner seemingly wants to blame everyone from the SMC to the fans when the main responsibility lies at the owners door. He shafted the club with joke coaching teams, fell out with the SMC owner by trying to nick his sponsors then when things are starting to hit rock bottom he goes and mergers academies with our biggest forever leaching neighbour alienating yet more supporters and making sponsors leave in their droves
Pearson is an imbicile of the highest magnitude and most fans see this apart from she who tries to act so intelligent yet keeps towing the company line rather than come out against the constant ineptitude from the owner and its staff - that simply says to me you are one of the same and ive said it many times before but its fans like yourself (if you are one) that hold this club back and not the ones who choose to keep their money in their pocket'"
Wow. I've had plenty to say about AP's poor choice of advisors (his choice), lack of humility, poor decisions etc. From a cash flow perspective that's in the past.
I love this club. I'm not an employee, but I am a passholder, a member of it if you like. I see the evidence of the club being overstretched financially. I want it to survive and do well, for there to be a strong club for AP to hand on when his time as custodian is over. Do I agree with everything that's being said and done? No. Do I have a choice as to whether to support the club when it's struggling? Certainly, as a fan I'd argue it's a responsibility to do so.
I won't resort to personal comments or accusations as you seem to feel are necessary. You are at liberty, clearly, to claim that withdrawing support is vital. I absolutely disagree.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "FTFY
See my reply to the other one, with the following enhancements. I never said pass receipts were down 30%. Clearly there are fewer walk ups now which are typically higher price per ticket. Those missing 4000 or whatever the number is. That translates to lower merchandise sales, lower hospitality revenue etc. The SMC aren't looking to do us any favours.
Of course this is of Pearson's making, or at least via poor choices he's had a major impact. Where have I said otherwise. But we can mither about the past or take stock of what we have and decide what we want to do as members of the club. Support it with reservations about its leadership and strategy, or cancel our membership.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "The club has lost £1.5m since 2010.
The user agreement is becoming increasingly challenging.
Average gates in 2010 were 14,000, so are down around 30%with commensurate reductions in sponsorship.
Call it bleating if you like, but don't imply there's no financial difficulty here, or claim you weren't given notice of it.'"
It is bleating and it's boring. Neither you or I know what the drop in income is, any more than we know what the drop in costs is over the same period but I do remember you telling us a while back that we only made a small operating loss in 2014. Crowds aren't significantly down since then but we seem to have shed a fair amount of cost in salaries so I'd assume it's reasonable to expect a no dissimilar financial performance for 2015.
Maybe you can give your professional view on the additional savings being made on the academy and the increase in SKY income for 2015 or doesn't your myopia allow you to bring any balance to your posts?
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| YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WARNED!!! THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!!!! BUY YOUR HULL FC SEASON TICKET TO SAVE MANKIND!!!!
Its a load of rubbish MRS B , he's got you hook line and sinker. We are all Hull fans and we are all going to continue putting our money into the club, you or pearson have nothing to worry about
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| We're OK chaps. The three wise men have decreed that the club do not have financial issues, despite the obvious cost cutting that's going on. I can sleep easy now.
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| In terms of the "Hull Fc" brand, it is very damaging to say that you are in financial difficulty. This would be a particularly risky move if it wasnt true, a key problem would be that you might struggle to attract sponsors who wouldnt want to be associated with a sinking ship.
I doubt that any owner of a business with a noticeable brand would lie about financial insecurity for a potential gain - it just doesnt work that way.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "We're OK chaps. The three wise men have decreed that the club do not have financial issues, despite the obvious cost cutting that's going on. I can sleep easy now.'"
I don't think any of them have decreed that at all, they've simply disagreed with Mrs 'know it all' and oh i see they've disagreed with her hence why you're now posting, i get it now.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "I don't think any of them have decreed that at all, they've simply disagreed with Mrs 'know it all' and oh i see they've disagreed with her hence why you're now posting, i get it now.'"
You get what exactly??
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "It is bleating and it's boring. Neither you or I know what the drop in income is, any more than we know what the drop in costs is over the same period but I do remember you telling us a while back that we only made a small operating loss in 2014. Crowds aren't significantly down since then but we seem to have shed a fair amount of cost in salaries so I'd assume it's reasonable to expect a no dissimilar financial performance for 2015.
Maybe you can give your professional view on the additional savings being made on the academy and the increase in SKY income for 2015 or doesn't your myopia allow you to bring any balance to your posts?'"
But but but, it's ALL SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT!
People not buying passes to watch overpaid dross with no attacking flair, sponsors not shelling out because the match day experience is poor and the owner, as it turns out, doesn't really give a toss about anyone but himself.
In an ideal world someone would buy City, FC and the SMC and be a very quiet, sit in the background and invest in experts owner.
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