When Smith went to Wire he assumed the title Director of Coaching. Lowes retained his of First Team Coach.

Something similar could be engineered at Hull, surely, to keep everyone happy?

It just shows how bad things have got when a defeat by Rovers could do us a favour. Would a Rovers spanking be enough to get rid of Agar? Agree with the sentiment that relegation would wake the 'board', they're like rabbits in the headlights.

See numerous examples on this thread and others on how Noble, Smith, McGuire et al have done exactly this with other inherited squads. We have a good squad with a coach that doesn't know how to develop or get the best out of them.

Looking from the other angle, how different is Graeme Horne as a player after two years under Brown at Hudds? First team regular, highly regarded. Completely stagnant under Agar at Hull.

I may have slightly black and white tinted glasses but I think a good coach would relish the opportunity to take the reins with the current Hull FC squad. Aside from all the off field strength with money available for transfers, full cap, etc I think we have some quality players simply not playing to their potential both as individuals and more importantly as a team.

Fully agree. Someone mentioned before that Noble's preference would be for Hull . Not sure if he's right, but if so it's surely because of the wealth of untapped potential.

hic

quoting your own post and saying nothing is a sign of insanity

Now i look insane after a quick edit from the worm

But, would good coach relish having to be a yes man?

Can a coach be good and a yes man simultaneously?

Ah. We have the sticking point.

We may well find out soon...

To varying degrees lots of head coaches on both sides of the world are yes men to some extent.

Without trawling through 9 pages of this topic, the answer to it is as simply as " we are S**T".

We are in the same predicament as wire with Lowes and the sooner something changes the better, Agar and co can put as much spin on the current situation but the fact remains that we are miles away from were a club like ours should be.

I don't expect to win every game (would be nice) but what i do expect is a coach who can change things that are obviously a problem, the only consistent bit of our team is that we consistently make the same fundamental errors week in week out with no change, to name a few -

No support play (grates me no end)
P1ss poor kicking game
Clueless inside opp 20 m
Poor passing and not spreading the ball ( we pass the ball more when the players decide who is going to kick to touch from a penalty)

If we do any training its pretty obvious that it doesn't cover these areas.

The tip of the balance imo is that we won alot of close games last year when we probably shouldn't of done which probably painted over the cracks whereas this years performances were we aren't getting the close wins probably reflects that we haven't progressed.

Just watching the highlights could our attack be any slower and predictable ? As for the defence its a joke