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| Quote: garry brindley "What about if the losing streak kept up though? They wouldn't let him lose another 9 games in a row before they did anything.'"
It's not likely to happen though is it. Either way I think the board will give him around half the season.
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| Quote: PAUL M "A dozen games and I think the board will start to have a real think about Agar's future, they have invested in him thus far and won't make a kneejerk decision.'"
In all fairness Paul they made a kneejerk decision to extend his contract when they though he was going to get the England job.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| Quote: PAUL M "It's not likely to happen though is it. Either way I think the board will give him around half the season.'"
Don't think it's that unlikely, we got beat by Crusaders last year and only beat them at home thanks to a dodgy decision, then it's Wigan followed by Wakey who we also lost to last year. How many losses in a row do you think they would tolerate?
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| Quote: garry brindley "Don't think it's that unlikely, we got beat by Crusaders last year and only beat them at home thanks to a dodgy decision, then it's Wigan followed by Wakey who we also lost to last year. How many losses in a row do you think they would tolerate?'"
A total guess but around 8-10.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| Quote: PAUL M "A total guess but around 8-10.'"
Not a chance, if things are getting a bit nasty after 3 in a row things would come to a head long before it got that far.
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| Quote: garry brindley "Not a chance, if things are getting a bit nasty after 3 in a row things would come to a head long before it got that far.'"
Well neither of us know so there is every chance.
They will back Agar, they have invested in him and will give him as much time as they can.
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| Quote: garry brindley "Not a chance, if things are getting a bit nasty after 3 in a row things would come to a head long before it got that far.'"
Lose the next 2 and he is gone IMO. Unless something happens that the board can use as an excuse.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Lose the next 2 and he is gone IMO. Unless something happens that the board can use as an excuse.'"
We won't lose Friday, but it's irrelevant as agar is going nowhere. They stuck with him through 2008 and 2009 then gave him a contract extension on the back of a bad patch last season. I think he could finish bottom 4 and still be here at the end of the season.
Besides, we already have an injury crisis for him to hide behind
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| Quote: kingston droolers "FFS!!! you are a director now!!!!'"
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| Quote: Smiggs "In all fairness Paul they made a kneejerk decision to extend his contract when they though he was going to get the England job.'"
Id almost call that decision sickening, we were playing very poorly at the time swell, if Agar does lose his job during this season I think other people envolved in that decision should lose there jobs also.
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| Quote: Father Ted "From an outsider looking in from Wigan. There are some matters very similar between our two clubs and the periods of decline followed by the decisions taken to turn things around.
We won the CCup in 2002 and were beaten Grand Finalists in 2003. By 2006 we were bottom of the league.
You won the CCup 2005 and beaten Grand Finalists 2006. You haven't won a game and but for clubs going into admin you'd be bottom of the league.
In 2006 Dave Whelan owned the club and Mo Lindsay was Chairman.
They sacked Millward and replaced him with Brian Noble. Noble in turn brought in Fielden and Dobson, Wigan then won 10 out of the last 12 games to finish seventh.
Following a CCup semi defeat Mo said he was resigning therefore Whelan put the club up for sale. It was bought by Ian Lenagan.
After two season with Noble when the team had flatlined as a semi final team. Losing CCup semis and 3 final eliminators Lenagan didn't renew Noble's contract and appointed Michael Mcguire for 2010.
From IL's purchase of the club he emphasised his desire to keep Wigan's younger players, improve their levels if fitness and skills so they would have a better chance of making the first team. He said he'd bought the club to win trophies which he felt it is what Wigan should always be competeing for.
It does appear that you need a first team coach who has the capability to bring in his own fitness and skills coaches. You need to improve your many, many younger players who make it to the first team then don't improve. (The Horne brothers, Hall, Washb'k, Wheeldon, Yeaman, etc)
When it is obvious that you have turned things around then IMO you need perhaps new owners but most certainly a new BOD.
This current BOD have sat and watched your decline and can't bring anything new to the club. It is they who need replacing as much as if not more than your coaching staff.
If it can be turned around at Wigan it can be at Hull. Just as at Wigan though you need new people at the top of the club both at executive and coaching levels.
Hull FC are a great club with great fans and fantastic facilities.
You should be competing at the top not where you are now.
British Rugby League needs a strong Hull FC.
Best of Luck!'"
Great post. Lets hope it happens. All the best.
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| Reading some of the opinions in today's HDM, the thing I don't understand is those who seem to think the club won't sack Agar as it would be admitting they were wrong. Surely it's still better to admit you're wrong and rectify things than to pretend otherwise as you're going down the pan? If they got rid I don't see how there can possibly be any egg on face, it would be done with and move on. It's not like there has ever been any ridiculous crowing about Agar's abilities. They thought he was potentially the man for the job so gave him a chance, fair play. Things not panning out as you would want/hope is a fact of life from time to time, nobody's immune to that.
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| Quote: jordanp "Id almost call that decision sickening, we were playing very poorly at the time swell, if Agar does lose his job during this season I think other people envolved in that decision should lose there jobs also.'"
On the other hand, it would probably be the same people making both decisions, so why should they lose their jobs for making a mistake (even then, only in some people's eyes) they have then rectified?
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Lose the next 2 and he is gone IMO. Unless something happens that the board can use as an excuse.'"
I hope you're right, but i think the board will stick with him a bit longer despite the unrest amongst the fans
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Lose the next 2 and he is gone IMO. Unless something happens that the board can use as an excuse.'"
I agree, if the board had any excuses though they would be spining them already.
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