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Quote: Big Dave T "As has been said before, if we cant bring a 9 in we need to play Washy there. '"


Why have you developed this fixation with playing Washbrook at hooker? He's shown nothing to suggest he'd be a good hooker on a regular basis. I'd play him there in an absolute emergency, and only then. To go into the season with him as one of our two interchange hookers would be very foolish. All IMVHO, of course.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I'd defo have a look at him.'"


Me too, providing he is fit then worth a year.

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Quote: Rock God X "Why have you developed this fixation with playing Washbrook at hooker? He's shown nothing to suggest he'd be a good hooker on a regular basis. I'd play him there in an absolute emergency, and only then. To go into the season with him as one of our two interchange hookers would be very foolish. All IMVHO, of course.'"


Did you read what i wrote? I said 'if we cant bring another 9 in i'd play Washy there'

Hows that a fixation? (and more importantly, i think we're agreeing that it's a last resort by what i wrote)

I disagree though about what he's demonstrated. I've seen all the core skills from him to think he'll do a decent job there if needed.

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Quote: PAUL M "Me too, providing he is fit then worth a year.'"


Unless the Rovelli deal is still on. If it's not we'd be foolish to not be looking at Drew.

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Quote: Big Dave T "Unless the Rovelli deal is still on. If it's not we'd be foolish to not be looking at Drew.'"


Definatley agree.

Would be solid inter-change hooker and would have Berro in the centres.

If (when) we have a half injury, he could go in the halves, Berro interchanging hooker again and Turner/Whiting in the centres.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Definatley agree.

Would be solid inter-change hooker and would have Berro in the centres.

If (when) we have a half injury, he could go in the halves, Berro interchanging hooker again and Turner/Whiting in the centres.'"


Exactly what i'd do. (unless as a 1 off Houghton can play 80)

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Quote: Big Dave T "Exactly what i'd do. (unless as a 1 off Houghton can play 80)'"


Simples! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: PAUL M "He could not go the full length now, no chance. He is quick over 20 yards and does have strength and a brain, i'd like to see him play centre this season but I am worried about the lack of cover at hooker, don't want Houghton playing too many minutes.'"


How can you possibly tell how quick he is now campared to what he used to be? Even if he had lost a lot of pace it would still be hard to tell over the short distances required to run on the field, people read too much into when a player turns 30, sprinters still perform at a high standard into there 30s, and from what I can see he is still a similar weight and build to what he used to be and dosnt have trouble with movement in my opinion.

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Quote: jordanp "How can you possibly tell how quick he is now campared to what he used to be? Even if he had lost a lot of pace it would still be hard to tell over the short distances required to run on the field, people read too much into when a player turns 30, sprinters still perform at a high standard into there 30s, and from what I can see he is still a similar weight and build to what he used to be and dosnt have trouble with movement in my opinion.'"


I saw him make breaks for Aus/Queensland and Brisbane and I have seen him make breaks for Hull and he does seem to have lost that edge in pace, that's how I can possibly tell. It had nothing to do with his age, that was your assumption.

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Quote: PAUL M "I saw him make breaks for Aus/Queensland and Brisbane and I have seen him make breaks for Hull and he does seem to have lost that edge in pace, that's how I can possibly tell. It had nothing to do with his age, that was your assumption.'"


I've seen him win the Clive Churchill medal in Oz and have then seen him play 9 at Hull. He was a lot better back then at 9 than he is now too. Maybe we should just get rid. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Big Dave T "Did you read what i wrote? I said 'if we cant bring another 9 in i'd play Washy there'

Hows that a fixation? (and more importantly, i think we're agreeing that it's a last resort by what i wrote) '"


Ok, ok. Keep calm!

I think it's a fixation because if we don't bring in another 9, the obvious choice is to use the SOO and international hooker we already have.

Quote: Big Dave T "I disagree though about what he's demonstrated. I've seen all the core skills from him to think he'll do a decent job there if needed.'"


Then we'll agree to differ. I'd be very disappointed if he was played there over Berrigan. We have options at centre and that are better than playing Washy at hooker.

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Quote: Rock God X "Ok, ok. Keep calm!

I think it's a fixation because if we don't bring in another 9, the obvious choice is to use the SOO and international hooker we already have.

Then we'll agree to differ. I'd be very disappointed if he was played there over Berrigan. We have options at centre and that are better than playing Washy at hooker.'"


I'd say more a different opinion rather than a fixation. I've debated with myself what value Berro can add in the centres vs 9 and believe that it's in the best interest of the team to play him in the centres, even if that exposes us at 9 with Washy playing there. I just think we get more value out of Berro in the centres, i've not been quiet about my disappointment over the last few years with Berro's performances at 9.

It really could be like having a brand new international back signed up.

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Personally I'd say that apart from the blip this season when he had personal issues off-field, it's been more that the team around him haven't been good enough or played the right game for him. Individually, he has still looked a cut above his teammates the rest of the time in terms of ability IMO.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I've seen him win the Clive Churchill medal in Oz and have then seen him play 9 at Hull. He was a lot better back then at 9 than he is now too. Maybe we should just get rid.
Or maybe we could leave him at hooker and play the right kind of attacking game to suit him. You know, with dummy runners and a quick ptb and stuff. The argument of how much value we get out of him is entirely of the club's own making IMO, and not his fault. So for people to keep levelling it him accusingly is besides the point.

It really could be like having a brand new international hooker signed up . icon_wink.gif

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Quote: carl_spackler "Or maybe we could leave him at hooker and play the right kind of attacking game to suit him. You know, with dummy runners and a quick ptb and stuff.

It really could be like having a brand new international hooker signed up .
Don't be silly!!

If Agar had a Ferrari, he'd convert it to LPG to save money!

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