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| Quote: hull2524 "give it a rest.
Why? I didn't start abusing people. Others started with that.
Do some home truths hurt on here or do you all still BELIEVE....
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "You referring to hull as a far more professional out fit. Wow that shows in their recent achievements and PLAYER behaviour....
Crookes... .
That scrum half from Australia you treated so well who liked getting drunk and rolling his car...
That Australian full back who stuck around for 3 months......
Westerman and Watts most weekends at Escape....
Watts has achieved what at hull exactly? At Rovers he won superleague young player of the year and a Knights call up....at hull?. Do you get a medal for finishing 7th?
Taylor was at a more professional club...Wigan....but couldn't hack it long term. They didn't even 're call him when Flowers was banned from his loan at Salford.
Go read the Wigan forum threads on him from February this year and you'll see what they thought of him.
Until you accept your at the same level as Rovers Widnes etc you'll never move on. Biggest under achievers in superleague history.....hull. You should have challenged Leeds for the past ten years with the squad you had in 2005 but.....you had imploded in a season and half all through solid professionalism.
Oh and are you still squabbling on how you get in and where you can sit in that stadium you play at....the model of professionalism...hull fc.
So much more professional you were happy to merge academies with Rovers.
You had the run of local talent when Rovers weren't in superleague and blew that too.
People in glass houses and all....'"
Calling Hull professional when you still have Walker, Kelly and Cockayne!
Criticising our youth, when yours is the worst in SL.
We might have underachieved, but are still ahead of you on and off the pitch, as it has been for the last 30 years and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
You have been in SL 10 years now and have won a couple of playoff games and been humiliated in a cup final.
Within 10 years of us being in SL, we had won a challenge cup, finished 2nd in SL and got a grand final. I'll take stick from Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Wigan fans, who have all been more successful than us, but not from a club who hasn't won anything major in most fans lifetimes.
As for predictions we will finish 5th-8th and you 9th-12th, I'm sure you will comfy come back up again though.
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "
FFS give it a rest will you.
Getting really bored of you and the others on here contributing to this nonsensical and pointless p155ing contest.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "See its posts like this that make you look stupid and deluded'"
Please point out the inaccuracies in his post.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "
I was having a debate about Watts and Taylor.
Read the thread it's others that started the pi##ing.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Calling Hull professional when you still have Walker, Kelly and Cockayne!
Criticising our youth, when yours is the worst in SL.
We might have underachieved, but are still ahead of you on and off the pitch, as it has been for the last 30 years and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
You have been in SL 10 years now and have won a couple of playoff games and been humiliated in a cup final.
Within 10 years of us being in SL, we had won a challenge cup, finished 2nd in SL and got a grand final. I'll take stick from Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Wigan fans, who have all been more successful than us, but not from a club who hasn't won anything major in most fans lifetimes.
As for predictions we will finish 5th-8th and you 9th-12th, I'm sure you will comfy come back up again though.'"
One last time for the festive season....
Cockayne was sacked for his behviour. Remind me what Kelly and Walker have done? (Please be aware your moderators won't like unproven libellous answers).
Rovers youth the worst in the league...good enough to produce your 2 props your all drooling over.....and good enough to merge with.
Thanks for reminding me of the play off win.....it was priceless.
After that first ten years of superleague did you go down the other side of the ski slope fast or what....settled next to us superleague newcomers for a while haven't you.
Why limit it to wire saints Wigan and Leeds? Surely you can't exclude Catalan, Huddersfield and Cas who all regularly out perform you too.
I didn't come on here pi##ing about how good Rovers are. Read my predictions I think we'll finish below you barring a miracle run with injuries.
You all got nasty cause I suggested Watts and Taylor ain't all that over the long run.......hence they are with you and not a big club.
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm " Remind me what Kelly and Walker have done? (Please be aware your moderators won't like unproven libellous answers).'"
Do you really want to pull on that thread? Try reading up on the background to his sackings from Cronulla and Newcastle and his supplements ban.
Online libel, or defamation, can be troublesome. "Generally, defamation is a false and unprivileged statement of fact that is harmful to someone's reputation, and published "with fault," meaning as a result of negligence or malice." Maybe like saying Taylor was shipped out to Leigh in 2014. Naughty.
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "One last time for the festive season....
Cockayne was sacked for his behviour. Remind me what Kelly and Walker have done? (Please be aware your moderators won't like unproven libellous answers).
Rovers youth the worst in the league...good enough to produce your 2 props your all drooling over.....and good enough to merge with.
Thanks for reminding me of the play off win.....it was priceless.
After that first ten years of superleague did you go down the other side of the ski slope fast or what....settled next to us superleague newcomers for a while haven't you.
Why limit it to wire saints Wigan and Leeds? Surely you can't exclude Catalan, Huddersfield and Cas who all regularly out perform you too.
I didn't come on here pi##ing about how good Rovers are. Read my predictions I think we'll finish below you barring a miracle run with injuries.
You all got nasty cause I suggested Watts and Taylor ain't all that over the long run.......hence they are with you and not a big club.'"
Another error as Watts didn't come through your academy.
We are going around in circles anyway so I'll leave it there, I'm sure this thread and as you say I'm getting really nasty
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Do you really want to pull on that thread? Try reading up on the background to his sackings from Cronulla and Newcastle and his supplements ban.
Oh Mrs. B. As always quibbling over the minor technicalities but missing the bigger picture.
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "Oh Mrs. B. As always quibbling over the minor technicalities but missing the bigger picture.'"
Minor technicalities have a habit of coming back to bite you. We're still talking about the defamation thing, right? Or Albert Kelly's previous transgressions that you seemed so certain were non-existent?
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Please point out the inaccuracies in his post.'"
The glaring one is the 'couple' of higher league placings. It's four just in SL. five if you count 2010, which I wouldn't, admittedly. Going back the 30 years he mentioned would include '86, '87, '88 and '92. Hardly a record of glory in an unrecognised, trophyless two-team competition, but 'a couple' - pfft.
In fairness Dave K gives Rovers 'a couple' of play-off wins - if we're talking SL, that's over crediting. But with the other hand he tries to take away Watts as a rovers-trained player. Now, while his good seasons have tended not to come in pairs to this point in his career, and the club-trained rule has been binned off, he did meet all of requirements to qualify at Rovers. As would Abdull at Hull, or the lad Oakes if he sticks with us for long enough. Unless Academy means under-16s, which now I think on it perhaps it does. Lost an argument with myself there.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "The glaring one is the 'couple' of higher league placings. It's four just in SL. five if you count 2010, which I wouldn't, admittedly. Going back the 30 years he mentioned would include '86, '87, '88 and '92. Hardly a record of glory in an unrecognised, trophyless two-team competition, but 'a couple' - pfft.
In fairness Dave K gives Rovers 'a couple' of play-off wins - if we're talking SL, that's over crediting. But with the other hand he tries to take away Watts as a rovers-trained player. Now, while his good seasons have tended not to come in pairs to this point in his career, and the club-trained rule has been binned off, he did meet all of requirements to qualify at Rovers. As would Abdull at Hull, or the lad Oakes if he sticks with us for long enough. Unless Academy means under-16s, which now I think on it perhaps it does. Lost an argument with myself there.'"
Abdul signed for us at 16 and played for the 16s and 19s, how old was Watts when he signed for you and did he either play for your academy teams? He may be classes as club trained but if he can hardly been claimed as a youth product if he never played for your youth teams.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Abdul signed for us at 16 and played for the 16s and 19s, how old was Watts when he signed for you and did he either play for your academy teams? He may be classes as club trained but if he can hardly been claimed as a youth product if he never played for your youth teams.'"
Was Abdull still eligible for 16s when he joined Hull? He'll have turned 17 very early in that season, but I guess if you're 16 at the start of the year you qualify for the whole season?
Watts was 17 when he joined rovers, assuming his dob is correct on Wikipedia. He only played 3 games in 2008 (pretty good for a 17/18 year old forward) so I assume he played quite a few games for the 19s or 20s, whatever it was that year. 2009, he spent time (possibly the whole season) on loan with Gateshead, before becoming a regular in the 17 for most of 2010. The rule was 3 years with the club while eligible for the 20s iirc. Which was a bit strange when it went from 16s, 18s and 20s to 16s and 19s.
As I say, it looks like they've done away with that rule, so that's one thing fewer to argue about.
It will make life simpler recruiting from the joint academy at least. Now our youth system is exactly as good as yours.
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| Quote: Mild Rover " Now our youth system is exactly as good as yours.
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